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| Quote: Bridger "
I may be being cynical here but if Leeds had finished top last year and Saints had won the GF, would you have made this post?'"
No way he would.
And as a saints fan he should know they have benefitted as much as anyone from the playoff system.
They won back to back title in 99 and 00 both from 2nd place.
You win some you lose some.
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| The point some people miss on this thread, although it's been mentioned by some, is that
[sizeTHE FIXTURE LIST IN SUPER LEAGUE IS UNEVEN AND LOPSIDED DUE TO VARIOUS EXTRA FIXTURES AND HAS BEEN SINCE THE FIRST GRAND FINAL IN 98, THEREFORE CLAIMING TEAM THAT FINISHES TOP HAS BEEN BEST IS A MUTE POINT[/size.
Saints are probably going to finish top again, theres a number of realistic conmtenders and the playoff structure is more open.
It's just a saints fan with a squeaky bum.
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| It is a farce given the RL that Saints have played taking them to potentially 5 consecutive top of the table finishes could only bring them one actual championship. And i'm from Wigan.
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| Quote: Dougy "It is a farce given the RL that Saints have played taking them to potentially 5 consecutive top of the table finishes could only bring them one actual championship. And i'm from Wigan.'"
This whole thread is a farce.
Thems the rules, and they nearly always have been. Deal with it.
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| Quote: Wheels "This whole thread is a farce.
Thems the rules, and they nearly always have been. Deal with it.'"
Unless you are playing in Championship 1 where the rules are different
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| Quote: Starbug "Unless you are playing in Championship 1 where the rules are different'"
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| [Gledhill mode]Just imagine the furore when Bulls sneak 8th from a seemingly impossible position then go on to win the GF...[/Gledhill mode]
Sorry, must go, Nursey is just bringing my medication...
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| Quote: Dougy "It is a farce given the RL that Saints have played taking them to potentially 5 consecutive top of the table finishes could only bring them one actual championship. And i'm from Wigan.'"
No it isn't a farce, who's to say that Saints would have finished top all those times if all the other teams knew that finish top meat they were champions.
This is a stupid thread made up just because saints fans are now getting slightly worried that they may not actually win anything this year.
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| Before posting, I thought I would at least do the decent thing and read through the whole thread... can I have the last 10 minutes of my life back please?
Simple enough answer - it ain't broke so it doesn't need fixing
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| Quote: Dougy "It is a farce given the RL that Saints have played taking them to potentially 5 consecutive top of the table finishes could only bring them one actual championship. And i'm from Wigan.'" Does that make Saints the biggest chokers in the SL era?
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| Quote: BOYD2 "The first poster is Spot on ,the team that finishes top in my eyes are the champs they have been the best team all year ,its only Sky that down grade it and its a dissgrace to call it the Hub Cap ,there is no way a team finishing 8th should be anywhere near been crowned as champions.'"
With Leeds demolishing Castleford 76-12 tonight and hitting paydirt 14 times in the process, something tells me you don't have to worry much about that.
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| Personally I still think that the super league table should come to a halt mid season and that’s when the play offs should be played. At the end of the day St Helens play better in the sun as shown against Huddersfield Giants recently. Its only fair we let them play the Rhinos in the sun in a midseason grand final.
After the midseason grand final we shall go back to the regular SL rounds and all play for top spot. This should stop all the saints fans moaning..
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| the season draw of 24 games is not fair . its home and away . but in nrl we dont play each other twice. its an uneven draw. some teams play more teams from the top 8. some teams play more teams from the bottom of the table. so its not fair
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| Quote: Saint John "Pray excuse if this was already done to death, but, shouldn't the champs of the respective SL and NRL campaigns play off for the WCC, and NOT the winners of what is the end of season play-off comps?
The clubs have voted it in so they cant say its not fair unless your the chairman of saints.
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| I think whoever finishes top after playing everybody home and away over a season (a la football) should be champions as this is the fairest method.
Playoffs are cup type games which put a bigger weighting onto home/away call, injuries or the day, recent form as opposed to form over a season, weather (which seems to affect some teams) and lots of other short term variables which may not reflect the variables over a season.
Always feel sorry for the team finishing top who is then not champions due to not turning up in one game or injuries to key personnel etc
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