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Quote: Slugger McBatt "I am reading a book on the Foreman and Ali fight in 1974, and Ali's trainer was of the view that you can absorb any punch that you can see coming, and that's why Ali trained just on taking punches. His trainer said that it's the punches that you don't see coming that cause the knockouts, as the recipient has no time to protect himself. If it had been a big swinging punch, Stosic would have had time to move his head to absorb some of the blow. The fact that Stosic was over Cunningham would have made it less likely that his head would move back, and therefore the bones in his face took the full force of a punch from a physically strong athlete.

Three matches for me.'"


Anyone who knows even the slightest little bit about boxing should know that those are the hardest type of punches to take, short sharp jabs and short arm check hooks, it's because of the speed they can be delivered thus taking the recipient by surprise.

That will have been the deciding factor in this if Stosic has indeed sustained bad injuries. He wasn't expecting it at all so his face will have been relaxed. If you're stood toe to toe with someone in a fight you are expecting to take punches and will absorb them better.

I would much prefer someone to come windmilling at me than get in close and deliver a shot like that.

Someone I know was on the recieving end of a cowardly attack on a football field where someone came from behind and cracked him and made a real mess of his face. He wasn't a hard lad and it wasn't the best of shots by all accounts, but because the lad didn't see it coming it caused all sorts of damage and a fair amount of time in hospital.

Cheap shots like the one from KC should be dealt with severely IMO and even more harshly if a serious injury has occured.

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Quote: moschops "Has KC got a previously good record?
He's one of the dirtiest cheap shot merchants in the game (and the fattest).

On a side note does anyone know the last time he scored from diving over the line at a PTB? He must try it every time i see Saints play but i can't remember the last time the fat f***er actually scored from it.'"


pull your head out of your ass!

Cunningham has never Been dirty! He is tough and plays hard but never dirty.

Not sure why he did that as it's not like him.

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If they do take into account how bad the injury is and how long the player is out for, will the wildcats provide medical records to red hall or will they just take the wildcats fans word on it?

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Quote: Saddened! "Laughable. They should ban biscuit bones Stosic for having his face broken by such a weak prod of the fist. Seriously are people suggesting he should be banned for it?'"


Er...What about Longy's glass jaw? The girl should go play foozeball.

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Quote: St pete "pull your head out of your ass!

Cunningham has never Been dirty! He is tough and plays hard but never dirty.

Not sure why he did that as it's not like him.'"


He was on friday Pete.

Do we take your word for it or should you supply evidence to the RFL icon_wink.gif

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Roby is out, possibly going to miss the semi.. 2 match ban for KC then? icon_wink.gif

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Stosic must have a face made of glass cos even Bruce Lee couldnt do that much damage with the 3 inch punch.

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hope he's banned for the semi final

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Quote: St pete "why a big ban?

Players don't get banned by how long the player they injured is out for.

It was wrong and was a cheap shot but I doubt he will get more than 2 games.'"


Not true.

What was the difference between Terry Newtons intentional shot on Long and Howell's intentional shot on Tomkins?

Nothing execpt that Tomkins was not injured.

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Dale Holdstock was banned for 4mths by the RFL when breaking Doncasters Matthew Walker's Jaw and he has later paid £11,000 out of court.

I emailed the RFL about this and their response was basically that the ban reflected the injury sustained by the player. I also asked why Walkers brother was not banned for a long spell for running across the pitch to get involved in the fight and was told that the fact it was family was the reason he only got a small ban and fine.

Now I dont know if Stosic is thinking of taking KC to court for this incident but if the RFL want to show any consistency why would anyone be surprised to see another 4mth ban imposed on Kieron? Well I actually know why we'd ALL be surprised...KC is a St Helens player and an icon of the game, Dale Holdstock was an NL1 average back row forward known to very few outside of the division.

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Quote: cadoo "Not true.

What was the difference between Terry Newtons intentional shot on Long and Howell's intentional shot on Tomkins?

Nothing execpt that Tomkins was not injured.'"


Turry's was worse than anything I've seen on a rugby field because of how pre-meditated it was. Sure I've seen some bad-uns for example Sonny Nickle and Vila Matautia two that spring to mind, but Newton had hurting St Helens players on his mind throughout that game and didn't stop until he had. I've never seen that mindset before or since that day.

Cunningham's on Friday was borderline worthy of a penalty, it was petulant and born of frustration at the continued messing about at the play the ball. There was zero intent to harm and there was absolutely no venom in it either. I'd bet we've seen hundreds of similar incidents at play the balls this season, none of which have led to bans.

As has been mentioned had Stosic not been hurt no one would be talking about this at all. He was injured by freakish bad luck, not by any malicous intent on Cunningham's part.

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Quote: Saddened! "He was injured by freakish bad luck, not by any malicous intent on Cunningham's part.'"


No, he was injured by Cunningham's fist.

And you don't throw a punch without malicious intent. If he had given him a lovely piece of cake, fair enough - but he didn't.

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Quote: J. Willard Gibbs "No, he was injured by Cunningham's fist.

And you don't throw a punch without malicious intent. If he had given him a lovely piece of cake, fair enough - but he didn't.'"


You are looking at it too literally. Cunningham's mindset was more "Oh get off FFS!" than, "I'm going to rearrange your face". Yes there was a 2 inch prod but if we are going to start banning players for that there aren't going to be many players left on the field.

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