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| Quote: Bilko "I bet Long ends up retired injured before his two years is up. Just reminds me of Paul Newlove going as an OAP to Cas. He didn't last long.'"
Newlove didn't last 6 games if I'm correct. |
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| Quote: j_hunter_hkr "What are you on about? That's the complete opposite of what I was getting at. My point was that it's the quality of those players around him that allow Long to shine as he does. Or do you think he'll be just as good in Hull's team?'"
Because the original point was absurd.
If I had a pound every time someone mentions 'ere, he's only any cop 'cos Saints make 'im look good,' I'd be a rich man.
It has been said for just about every player in the Saints team.
To apply this argument to Sean Long is pure stupidity when you take into account:
A) The amount of big games he has helped Saints win
B) His individual honours from those games (e.g 3 time Lance Todd trophy winner)
C) That he came into the Saints team when the wheels were falling off and Fat Bob was on his way.
Sean Long was an integral part of Saints success, and his ability and experience will benefit Hull. |
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| Quote: Dead Man Walking "Newlove didn't last 6 games if I'm correct.'"
Newlove had a serious foot injury from what I can remember. |
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I appreciate the general argument here is whether Sean Long is right for Hull FC but what about the other angle? Is Hull FC right for Sean Long?
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I laugh so hard I cry.
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| Quote: eddiewaringsflatcap "Because the original point was absurd.
If I had a pound every time someone mentions 'ere, he's only any cop 'cos Saints make 'im look good,' I'd be a rich man.
It has been said for just about every player in the Saints team.
To apply this argument to Sean Long is pure stupidity when you take into account
So do you honestly think Long will be just as good at Hull as he is/has been at Saints? Over the past 10 years Saints have had a special group of players playing together at one time, you can't just break that apart and expect them to be just as good with mediocre players.
And for the record, I'm not one of those people who says "'ere, he's only any cop 'cos Saints make 'im look good" (nice phonetics though). Sean Long is a class player but the other class players he's had around him add an extra 15% to his game, in my opinion.
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| Quote: Bilko "I bet Long ends up retired injured before his two years is up. Just reminds me of Paul Newlove going as an OAP to Cas. He didn't last long.'"
as posted on our board, Long's appearance record since 2003
SL Games played last 6 years
2009 12 out of 14
2008 23
2007 17
2006 22
2005 20
2004 12 (year he got a ban??)
2003 28
there are loads of players with worse records than that
I personally think it'll be a good signing, as we are desperately lacking a game break and a leader. |
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| Quote: j_hunter_hkr "So do you honestly think Long will be just as good at Hull as he is/has been at Saints? Over the past 10 years Saints have had a special group of players playing together at one time, you can't just break that apart and expect them to be just as good with mediocre players.
And for the record, I'm not one of those people who says "'ere, he's only any cop 'cos Saints make 'im look good" (nice phonetics though). Sean Long is a class player but the other class players he's had around him add an extra 15% to his game, in my opinion.'"
Mediocre players that behind leeds and saints have been the most successful squad in the last 4 seasons. We need a leader and playmaker, we've signed one of the best. Knocking on or not, he's exactly what Hull need. |
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Decorated; yes - the catalyst for Saints' success all those years; no.
Never done it on the biggest stage and still fancies himself too much to make a meaningful contribution to Hull next year. If they weren't (allegedly) splashing so much on his wages, he might be value for money for a couple of years, but I suspect he's on big, big money and it's a gamble at best.
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| Quote: oxford-pie-eater "Decorated; yes - the catalyst for Saints' success all those years; no.
Never done it on the biggest stage and still fancies himself too much to make a meaningful contribution to Hull next year. If they weren't (allegedly) splashing so much on his wages, he might be value for money for a couple of years, but I suspect he's on big, big money and it's a gamble at best.'"
going by your username, it would suggest you are a wigan fan? hardly in a position to criticise a club who (allegedly) are splashing out on a player, when your own club do exactly that and have won nothing for years!  |
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| The biggest critics of his signing seems to be Dull KR & Wigan fans.
Wonder why that is  |
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| Quote: oxford-pie-eater "Decorated; yes - the catalyst for Saints' success all those years; no.
Never done it on the biggest stage.'"
What is this bigger stage you refer to? beating the aussies in Sydney, winning 3 lance todd trophies, Grand Final's |
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| Quote: Irregular Hoops "The biggest critics of his signing seems to be Dull KR & Wigan fans.
Wonder why that is ![]()
Michael Dobson?
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| Quote: Irregular Hoops "The biggest critics of his signing seems to be Dull KR & Wigan fans.
Wonder why that is ![]()
Because Wigan hate Long and Rovers hate Hull FC, I'd say.
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Dobbo's going nowhere. 
