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Quote: deeHell "Every young fit English player in our squad is getting the chance to play. All we have left is the academy players who you can't ask to step up and be competitive on a week in week out basis.

With our massive injury crisis and Illness effecting our squad we have been forced into making signings like this. At least at Wakey you could say our young lads are not getting shoved aside for Aussies that are no better.'"


well clearly they are, or they arent even getting the chance in the first place, this is Wakefields eleventh season in SL and they still rely more on overseas players than their own academy,

it is embarrassing for the game, that still, when looking for a player to fill a gap, second and third string NRL players are the fallback rather than the youngsters we have and the players playing elsewhere,

there really is no justification for it

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Quote: Catnap "So you're slating us for signing a young Samoan player who's development will help the Samoan national team while at the same time suggesting that we sign a player from France that would not be elligable to play for England
yes, we have a duty to help france, the same as australia have a duty to help the pacific nations and NZ

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Quote: Catnap "Is our game served well when SL teams are bringing any foreigners over rather than developing their own. We have a coach who has a good record at spotting potenial in a player and helping them develop it, he appears to have found another one that hasn't cost us much in wages but may well have a impact on SL this season, so what?

How many foreigners do you have in your squad because regardless of how old or experienced they are, they are taking a spot than one of your young players could have taken, so don't start trying to take the moral high ground regarding signing foreign players until you've got a fully British squad
yes, our league is improved by bringing over top quality, international quality overseas players,

it is not improved by clubs bringing over 2nd and 3rd string NRL players to fill the gaps left by their under-invested failing youth systems

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Quote: Marsdengiant "Mick de Vere. Played a major role in getting us to a CC Final.hope that helps
oh you knew who i was on about when i mentioned crap then icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Catnap "Is our game served well when SL teams are bringing any foreigners over rather than developing their own. We have a coach who has a good record at spotting potenial in a player and helping them develop it, he appears to have found another one that hasn't cost us much in wages but may well have a impact on SL this season, so what?

How many foreigners do you have in your squad because regardless of how old or experienced they are, they are taking a spot than one of your young players could have taken, so don't start trying to take the moral high ground regarding signing foreign players until you've got a fully British squad
5 (some include Finneagn but the RFL say he is a Brit). Of the 5 3 are GF winners. 2 have NZ caps and one has several SOO appearances.

Rumoured we are signing Fulton. he played 21 times lastseason and has won a GF

I would be appalled if the giants tried to sign a reserve grader.

So young Cudjoe knows he is not picked because SOO player Brett Hodgson is there. he can be mentored by a top Oz player. There is some wakey reserve grade player who will not get picked because of an Oz reserve grade player from whom he will probably learn very little. And when Brett goes back Leroy will have learned from a brilliant guy and still be only 22/23.

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Quote: desmond decker "oh you knew who i was on about when i mentioned crap then
Yes I did. Your rugby brain is such that a guy with many Oz caps/SOO caps and GFs would be classed as 'crap' while you seek to pitifully defend the signing of an NRL reserve grader. Keep digging icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Marsdengiant "There is some wakey reserve grade player who will not get picked because of an Oz reserve grade player from whom he will probably learn very little. '"


So what reserve grade player are we talking about then? Like it's been said and I'll say it again we have all our capable youngsters playing we are down to the bare bones. I would love us to sign a young capable english talent but there just not available at the moment.

I'm sure if Huddersfield had a mass injury and illness crisis mr uncle sugar daddy would have his check book out like a shot and sign any available aussie before he dipped into the Academy ranks.

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dont need to dig it must be raining and you the worm has come to the surface this post is nothing but a dig at wakefield thats all too plain to see i think you should concentrate on your own team shuddersfield

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Quote: deeHell "So what reserve grade player are we talking about then? Like it's been said and I'll say it again we have all our capable youngsters playing we are down to the bare bones. I would love us to sign a young capable english talent but there just not available at the moment.

I'm sure if Huddersfield had a mass injury and illness crisis mr uncle sugar daddy would have his check book out like a shot and sign any available aussie before he dipped into the Academy ranks.'"


why not go to RU or the championship?

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Quote: deeHell "So what reserve grade player are we talking about then? Like it's been said and I'll say it again we have all our capable youngsters playing we are down to the bare bones. I would love us to sign a young capable english talent but there just not available at the moment.

I'm sure if Huddersfield had a mass injury and illness crisis mr uncle sugar daddy would have his check book out like a shot and sign any available aussie before he dipped into the Academy ranks.'"


Wow so this week you don't have a full team?! Or for the next month while FW gets his visa. Plus noone coming back from injury. Nor is there anyone at any other UK club nor any NRL players who are first teamers. Can you provide the link to this information. Will your games be declared null and void?

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Quote: desmond decker "dont need to dig it must be raining and you the worm has come to the surface this post is nothing but a dig at wakefield thats all too plain to see i think you should concentrate on your own team shuddersfield'"


The post is about a long established SL club that has £100K for Greg Bird choosing to sign a reserve grader.

When the best argument you can come up with is to call Mick de Vere 'crap' you show your lack of rugby knowledge.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "icon_lol.gif with your lack of knowledge of RL, it doesnt surprise me one bit, though i think this is more an attempt at a cheap shot at leeds, you still a bit upset about getting spanked off the leeds board earlier this week? let it go, its nothing, making ridiculous statements in anger just makes you look even more silly



So why have Leeds got Australian players then fool. Or are you saying it's alright for Leeds to sign the ones they can afford but Wakefield can't. We have a quota spot free we can sign who we want.

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Quote: Marsdengiant "I am here sweetcheeks

We now have the press cuttings. thanks for them. I looked at his Bulldogs profile and it said no reps honours. (maybe Oz clubs think developmental games are not proper reps games)

If he played for samoa three years ago as a tier 2 country then that may be enough. Box ticked and over he may pop.

Still rather sad that a game for a developmental Samoan side 3 years ago is enough. Not being able to get games in a NRL team that had problems in its back row last year is not an impediment.

If our game is strengthened by bring over reserve grade NRL players so be it
And Simon Finnigan was produced in Birkby was he?

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Quote: Marsdengiant "You are so tough. Please don't bully me on the VT.

Back to topic. Is our game served well when a team who has been in SL for a decade has to opt for NRL reserve graders?

After the WC debacle many raised the issue of us bringing in lower quality overseas players. they had a point.

Wakey players like Drew/Petersen/Stosic/Martin have proven NRL records they bring proven ability to the game and can help develop youngsters. Winterstein does not do this.

But given a game in 2006 looks like he will be on his way.'"


That's rich coming from the likes of you. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: SmokeyTA "what about RU? other clubs youngsters? maybe a player not getting a chance at another SL club? why not france?'"

As I have previously said, the club have in the past looked to the lower tiers for talent, perhaps this time the calibre of player John Kear has picked up from here in the past might not have been there or available this time.

Wakefield have promoted the youth players ready for first team action from the academy into the 25 man squad, the fact that they have not promoted anymore suggests that they are not ready for SL or are not good enough. The better youngsters are often ‘poached’ from the Wakefield Scholarship scheme by neighbouring clubs who offer the academy players more money when it come to signing professional terms.

Regarding a French player, maybe the type of player Trinity wanted and for the money available wasn’t there. It’s far too easy to sit in an ivory tower taking shots at clubs without knowing the full facts of a situation.

Make no mistake I am not exactly pleased with this signing but I understand the reasons as to why it has happened.

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