Denan Kemp and the return of Stacy Jones improve that team but they'll miss Rapira and Wiki.

same again for me. Manly v Melbourne.
I know the Storm have lost players but they seem to turn average players in to top class players.

Why would they miss Rapira? He's still at the Warriors.

I saw somewhere that he'd gone to the Cowboys. Lies.

SBW leaving masked a club that was coached by a man who used tactics that were so far out of date as to be laughable - bit like Noble over here - and a lack of a decent player in positions 1, 6. 7, 9, 13 - they will be nearer the bottom than the top

dragons won again

please brett kimmorley and luke patten are better than their comparables at leeds.

and i dont like kimmorley either

and michael ennis is also a great player too.

stick to the wine

Brett Kimmorley is a 'decent player' if not beyond that.

Brett Kimmorley is 3/4 years past his best - Stuart knew that so let him go - a pale slower shadow of once great player - he is about as fast as Riddell. Patten isn't better than Webb and never was that is for sure. As for Ennis - has he played SOO? unlike the hooker at Leeds who captained NSW last season and would have played for Australia in the World Cup but for injury. Do you think Ennis will play for Australia?

Out of the three players you mentioned a SL club has two better players in those positions it is debatable as to whether Burrow is now a better player than Kimmorley at this point in both careers

You really spout some some - you really should think before you post

Burrow is never in Kimmorley's league. BOG OFF with that rubbish.

this is where watching the nrl helps.

i hate brett kimmorley and he was on fire last year.

in case youve forgotten his talent, go back to the 2003 Ashes series where he destoryed you.

ennis was on fire last year and mentioned as an origin possible vs farrar.

and not to forget theyve also signed ben hannant whose playing out of his skin, david stagg is handy as well.

and luke patten is a fabulous player.

if you knew anything about RL its the dogs always bounce back.

since 1980 they have won the most number of comps with brisbane

ie 1980, 1985, 1986, 1988, 1995, 2004

they lost 2000 and were favourites for 2002 before the cap stuff hit.

You've actually confirmed what the other bloke said when he mentioned Kimmorley was 3/4 years past his best.

Brisbane didn't come in til 88, so the doggies had a bit of a headstart don't you think.

i gave them the 97 GF that one really shouldnt count.

kimmorley played better last year than he did in 99.

but like your other english mate, you need to watch the NRL to know that

Luke Patten is a very average full back - he is no Billy Slater/Brett Stewart that is for sure in fact he isn't even a Brett Hodgson. Would he get a gig at any of the top sides - no way

Ennis might have been talked for Origin but he didn't even get in the squad - that says much about your knowledge - maybe you should watch some NRL - if a 30+ Buderus gets picked ahead of him what does that say about Ennis - third rate player who has left for the money

So the Bulldogs have won the comp twice in 20 years - some record - as I said you spout some rubbish - in 2002 they were so far over the cap they should have won the comp - Melbourne a start up side in 1997 have won it as many times as the Bulldogs have in 20 years in 12 years?

To say Kimmorley was a better player last year than at his peak when he played alongside Hill in a GF winning side is plain stupid - how you can call anyone's knowledge when say stuff like that defies belief - but then you are well known for your diatribe on a subject you quite clearly have little knowledge of.