Which was an over reaction to something that Ben Flower did, something you refuse to acknowledge.

And an elbow versus a forearm does make a difference.

AGAIN THICKO FLOWER HIT HOHIA ON THE BACK OF THE HEAD 1 st

Turn your caps lock off man, you're just making yourself look silly with all these SHOUTING POSTS TO TRY AND GET YOUR POINT ACROSS BECAUSE YOU'RE FAILING OTHERWISE.

I haven't refused to acknowledge that LH was reacting, I just disagreed with what he was reacting to, vis, "a punch in the back of the head". As I've said before I condemn Flower's reaction and support the punishment he has, and will, receive. What I disagree with is the notion that this was part of an instruction or gameplan and that this proves anything about Wigan as a club. Flower didn't do this under instruction, he did it as an idiotic over reaction.

Whoever believes that Hohaia didn't play some part in the altercation is wrong. He is clearly involved, and at fault for making contact with Flower near the Saint's try-line.
However, he is not to blame, at fault or responsible for Flower choosing to punch him whilst he was unconscious on the floor.

I disagree. Sorry that has the effect on you that it does. Perhaps if you could form a coherent argument instead of this adolescent rage you might convince me.

AGAIN, BEING SHOUTED AT IN THE ONLY THING THICK WIGANERS UNDERSTAND, AS PER SHAUN WANE

I agree 100%.

Ask your mate Cronus, he suggested it wasnt a head shot, just a swinging arm over the shoulder, obviously aimed at Hohia's knees then

And shouting is the only way thick Leigh fans can try to get their point across.

Excited for half-term are you?

I'd love to know what Wane said to his players in the pre-match team talk though (not that anyone ever will).

I personally don't like the way Wane and Wigan go about there business, I've heard rumours (just rumours mind!) that Wane sometimes gives players a list of the opponants injuries to target them, and has can be clearly seen on the WCC documentary Wane definitely like his teams to play the rough stuff and win at whatever cost. Now having said that do I think Wane instructed Flower to do what he did to LH, no, of course not, do I think he will have told his team to target Saints only halfback for some attention' yes I would think he did all IMO opinions of course.

I was delighted last night that Saints won as I say, I'm not a fan of how Wigan play and neither of Wane and how he coaches.

Your team and coach have brought RL into disrepute again, and yet unlike those of you who understand that are keeping quiet on it, some of you are ridiculously trying to somehow defend it

No excuses

Ben Flower has brought himself and RL into disrepute. Everything else is just conjecture.

Yet again, no one is defending Flower's final attack on Hohaia. Some sensible Saints fans even agree that it should be 4-8 match ban, it's people like you (no involvement in last nights game at all) who are still stuck on your faux moral outrage that's keeping this going.

I love the way Wane and Wigan go about [u[itheir[/i[/u business, which is in stark contrast to the team you support who spend almost the entire season tossing it off and ripping off [u[itheir[/i[/u fans in the process.

Yes a spelling error, well done, you got me.

Oh and the club I support (and you, lets be honest here) had a more successful one than Wane's Wigan. HTH

Ben Flower represents the Wigan club, his actions whether you like it or not reflect badly on your club.

You keep telling yourself that finishing 7th was a successful season.

In the same way that Zak Hardaker represents the Leeds club, his actions whether you like it or not reflect badly on your club?

At least Ben Flower and his club have unreservedly issued an apology within less than 24 hours,

How long did it take Zak Hardaker and his club to issue an apology through gritted teeth after his televised homophobic abuse of an official?

Answer? Six days!

Seeing the Club lift one of the 3 pieces of silverware available is a successful season, ask Wane if he thinks his season was successful?

Yet 12 months ago you were going on about how they had learnt to "play the system" just like Leeds after "tossing it off" for the last several weeks to go from 1st to finishing 4th and carefully calculating a first week tie against "playoff rabble" Huddersfield.



so which is it really?

And where have I said that that was reasonable?

Keep building those straw men, you've become quite good at it.

Wow!

You must be in seventh heaven!

Congrats on the Mickey Mouse cup Leeds.

When applying moral standards, those in glass houses might want to focus on their own clubs shortcomings, which in the case of your club would involve several unsavoury areas of disrepute.