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| Quote MrPhilb="MrPhilb"Justin has done all the other coaches a favour, he's had the bottle to come out and say things aren't good enough. Its cost him a few quid but sso what he's got his gripe across publically and now hopefully cummings has to do something about it instead of the hush hush correct approach which gets you nowhere'"
He pretty much guaranteed that action could not be taken. In the highly unlikely case of an objective review of the refereeing performance agreeing with his rant, that is.
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| I was at this game and was surprised by his outburst. Like someone has already said it was bordering on personal whch is clearly unacceptable. The crowd were on Thalers back from even before the game started and it continued right throughout. It's almost as though Morgan reacted to the fans shouts and didn;t watch the game. One of his comments said that Thaler was consistenly substandatd and yet two weeks ago in the match against Celtic, he praised him highly. Bit of inconcistency there. The fans have never forgiven Thaler for his penalty try decision last year at Wakefield and continue to get on his back. They either don't want to or are unable to move on. Personally, as a season ticket holding Rovers supporter who knows that the video of the Huddersfield game paints a completely different picture to that painted by both the Fans and Morgan, it's embarassing and very disappointing that he chose to do this.
The problem is that now that Morgan has voiced the same things that the fans have been shouting he has given credence to their arguements regardless of them being correct or not. I suggest they watch the video and try and come up with examples as I;m avsolutely positive they won't find any real ones.
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| Quote ladyref="ladyref"I was at this game and was surprised by his outburst. Like someone has already said it was bordering on personal whch is clearly unacceptable. The crowd were on Thalers back from even before the game started and it continued right throughout. It's almost as though Morgan reacted to the fans shouts and didn;t watch the game. One of his comments said that Thaler was consistenly substandatd and yet two weeks ago in the match against Celtic, he praised him highly. Bit of inconcistency there. The fans have never forgiven Thaler for his penalty try decision last year at Wakefield and continue to get on his back. They either don't want to or are unable to move on. Personally, as a season ticket holding Rovers supporter who knows that the video of the Huddersfield game paints a completely different picture to that painted by both the Fans and Morgan, it's embarassing and very disappointing that he chose to do this.
The problem is that now that Morgan has voiced the same things that the fans have been shouting he has given credence to their arguements regardless of them being correct or not. I suggest they watch the video and try and come up with examples as I;m avsolutely positive they won't find any real ones.'"
 I applaud your post. referees often get it in the neck from fans often unjustifiably or sometimes to influence them to make decisions one way or another. In most cases this does not work. how often do fans chant off off when a player gets pinged for a bad tackle. If the refs followed the fans all the time then the game would be determined by the fans who shout the loudest.
I have chanted against the ref once and thought he was biased and diabolical i then went home watched the game on SKY saw that he was about 95% right and i was wrong. I apologised to the ref by starting a thread on our board.
If we allow crowds or coaches or player to intimidate refs then the game will have no real future. For that reason alone i am glad that the RFL made such a strong statement.
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| Quote MrPhilb="MrPhilb"Justin has done all the other coaches a favour, he's had the bottle to come out and say things aren't good enough.'"
I'd reckon most of them were as embarrassed as most of us
Quote MrPhilb="MrPhilb" Its cost him a few quid but sso what he's got his gripe across publically and now hopefully cummings has to do something about it instead of the hush hush correct approach which gets you nowhere'"
You're deluded! Morgan has rightly been hauled over the coals for being totally out of order, and it ends there! Why would "Cummings have to do something about it"? It's Morgan who was, and has been found to be, 100% in the wrong!
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| Quote Durham Giant="Durham Giant"
If we allow crowds or coaches or player to intimidate refs '"
Then we'll be Man Utd or Arsenal. And who wants that?
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| £4,000 with £2k suspended.......money well spent as fas as Morgan and HKR are concerned.
What are the odds on thaler not getting a game featuring HKR for the rest of the season?
If I were cummings, I would appoint Thaler for every HKR game until he gets a full, public and sincere apology from Morgan.
It is outragous that this year, as part of the respect campaign, fans can be banned for life for berrating the officials, but this tw@ get's a smack on the wrist and is not asked to apologise to his victim of his cowardly abuse.
The RFL should have banned him from even being present at at least 5 games and given him a final warning.
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"£4,000 with £2k suspended.......money well spent as fas as Morgan and HKR are concerned.
What are the odds on thaler not getting a game featuring HKR for the rest of the season?
If I were cummings, I would appoint Thaler for every HKR game until he gets a full, public and sincere apology from Morgan.
It is outragous that this year, as part of the respect campaign, fans can be banned for life for berrating the officials, but this tw@ get's a smack on the wrist and is not asked to apologise to his victim of his cowardly abuse.
The RFL should have banned him from even being present at at least 5 games and given him a final warning.'"
As a [url=http://viewtopic.php?p=13963123#13963123wise man once said[/url … 
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| Quote tb="tb"As a [url=http://viewtopic.php?p=13963123#13963123wise man once said[/url …
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I am you and I claim the £5......take it out of morgans fine 
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"£4,000 with £2k suspended.......money well spent as fas as Morgan and HKR are concerned.
What are the odds on thaler not getting a game featuring HKR for the rest of the season?
If I were cummings, I would appoint Thaler for every HKR game until he gets a full, public and sincere apology from Morgan.
It is outragous that this year, as part of the respect campaign, fans can be banned for life for berrating the officials, but this tw@ get's a smack on the wrist and is not asked to apologise to his victim of his cowardly abuse.
The RFL should have banned him from even being present at at least 5 games and given him a final warning.'"
the other side of this is what is the likelihood of other refs taking their feelings outy on HKR after all being a ref is a lonely job and yoiu often only have a small group of colleagues to fall back on for support
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"We have tried since last season to get a positive dialogue in relation to this particular referee with Stuart Cummings at the RFL.
"We have not had satisfaction from that and that spilled over a little bit.
"We consider it to be a closed subject and in my mind it's not a fantastic decision as there is no accountability for referees in the public domain now."
Looks to me as though these "correct channels" work superbly well 
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"We have tried since last season to get a positive dialogue in relation to this particular referee with Stuart Cummings at the RFL.
"We have not had satisfaction from that and that spilled over a little bit.
"We consider it to be a closed subject and in my mind it's not a fantastic decision as there is no accountability for referees in the public domain now."
Looks to me as though these "correct channels" work superbly well 
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