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Quote: sally cinnamon "I don't know where this idea that Warrington had a "poor finish" to the season or "fizzled out" in the playoffs comes from?

Warrington won their last 10 league games of the season then in the playoffs beat Huddersfield 47-0 and lost to Leeds 26-24.

Yes the 2 point defeat by Leeds came at the worst time and ended the season but it's hardly a case of Warrington losing form at the wrong time of the season.'"


True this, but I don't know where you get the idea that Warrington were 'League Champions' in 2011. Such an award simply does not exist.

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Anyone who thinks Wire had a better season must be kidding themselves.

Leeds are the Champions and in 30 years time this will be the only thing that matters in the history books.

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Quote: Finfin "How can a team be classed as the best if they failed to beat the existing champs in 3 attempts?'"


Because this is Rugby League and not Boxing!!

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Let me play Devils advocate for a second. Say my team Hull KR (or any of the next 5 in league positions) were in the Leeds position. We win the grand final from 5th this year, would they be classed as having a better season or just being a flash in the pan and never happen again or do you have to be one of the top 4 usuals to be classed as the better?

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Still depends on your definition of 'better', but if you'd won the Championship from fifth and lost narrowly in the CC final, I'd say you had a better season than any, regardless of any historical 'pecking order'
The Rhinos clearly had the best season in 2011. Doesn't mean we were the best team over the course of the season. (That honour goes to Warrington). The same could be true of any team that achieved what Leeds did last year.

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Quote: jarvis12345 "Because this is Rugby League and not Boxing!!'"


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Quote: jarvis12345 "The poll was to try settle an argument with my Wire supporting mate. As i'm a Leeds fan when we discuss RL its usually Leeds and Wire issues and we dont feel the need to discuss WWRL, so they were not part of our argument!!'"


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It seems to me that this thread is trying to belittle a fantastic season that we had last year. We were the best team over all games and the LLS is the most difficult to win.

I got tremendous enjoyment from the season, coming away from the DW having seen us beat Wigan, beating our old enemy Saints home and away, same with the GF winners and coming away from the HJ smiling more than any previous season.

I would say that nearly a dozen teams would gladly swap our achievement for theirs. Compared to where we were 6 or 7 years ago, none of us Wire fans should feel disappointed.

Of the 3 honours on offer, I wanted to win the GF last year, but to win the LLS is a monkey off our back. We have won the play-of"?f equivalent as recently as 1988 and I reckon another will come soon. You have to go back further for our last league title. If someone asks now "when did you last win the league"? we can say 2011 actually.

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Quote: TF and the wire "It seems to me that this thread is trying to belittle a fantastic season that we had last year. We were the best team over all games and the LLS is the most difficult to win.

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If someone asks now "when did you last win the league"? we can say 2011 actually.'"

Yeah, well done - you won something no-one else was focussed on winning icon_biggrin.gifANCE:

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Every year we get this nonsense.

The only people who will remember Wire winning the LLS in 2011 in five years will be Wire fans - and only then if they haven't won the GF itself. All I know is Leeds have won the GF 5 times since 2003. I think we may have been top of the league on one or more occasions (including 2005, when Bradford were Champions?), but TBH I can't remember because I don't care.

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Warrington by a country mile, what a season ! and as we come into 2012, the disappointment of the final game will give us that little extra motivation to get the big trophy.
Dont forget Warrington has never had any history of GF rugby, the trophy is of little relevance to us at the moment, its not disrespect, just a lack of any emotional ties to something we've never been part of. We'll put that right this season.
Plan for 2012, win by closer margins, blood the youngsters, rest best players towards end of season, but above all give fans the type of rugby fans want to watch.

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Oh and I forgot to add.
Close down this site until September, lets go straight to the Playoffs, the first round ties decided by pulling little wooden balls from a cloth bag, the games between Feb and then are of little relevance , and therfore surely so are the arguments along the way.

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Quote: Saville Row "Warrington by a country mile, what a season ! and as we come into 2012, the disappointment of the final game will give us that little extra motivation to get the big trophy.
Dont forget Warrington has never had any history of GF rugby, the trophy is of little relevance to us at the moment, its not disrespect, just a lack of any emotional ties to something we've never been part of. We'll put that right this season.
Plan for 2012, win by closer margins, blood the youngsters, rest best players towards end of season, but above all give fans the type of rugby fans want to watch.'"


No "emotional ties" cause you can't win playoff games... Leeds had the better season, get over it. All we can all do is look up to the new glamour club and hope to aspire to your greatness....

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You're missing the point. Leeds will go down in history for winning Super League, Wire will not.

Every fan starts the season wanting their side to win Super League, the LLS is an achievement no doubt but ultimately it is not noteworthy.

Look at Huddersfield Town, a huge unbeaten run counted for nothing when they were dumped out of the play offs and this season will be the same, they won't win jack all.

Don't get me wrong though, I personally don't like the system we have, the winners of Super League should be whoever finishes top, with the play offs having a smaller role, but as it stands, Wires great season doesn't count for much alongside Leeds' Grand Final win. Honestly any Wire fan would swap winning the LLS for winning the Grand Final and if not you need your heads checking!

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