What that says to me then is the criteria needs changing. If Widnes are in SL in 2012 (and if not it will be one of the biggest injustices in the history of the game IMO), I think they will probably bring at least 1000 to CP. 1000 people paying an averaging of £15, + beer, food and programme sales probably equates to around £17k or £18k (just for one league game). That is a hell of a lot more then what Quins and certain other clubs contribute to teams.

What you fail to understand is that it's not about clubs saying 'We take loads away so other teams should return the favour'. If Widnes take 1000 fans to several away games (and I would have thought for games at Wigan, Saints, Wire and possibly Salford it will be significantly more), that means on that particular day a strong number of people from Widnes are spending their cash on British RL. They are essentially investing in the game, something clubs like Quins and Crusaders do not have (although Crusaders do deserve credit for the excellent backing they took to Huddersfield in the Play-Offs).

Bascially Widnes in SL will contribute more to British RL as a whole through better home attendances then many SL clubs (inc yours by a big margin), and taking more away then many teams. Widnes in NL1 brought a hell of a lot more then Broncos did for a big Cup games years ago (the year you got to Wembley).

IMO Widnes in SL will be good for the competition - the three afforementioned clubs will have strong crowds against them for a start, + I would expect Widnes to take loads to Crusaders been only 30-35 miles apart. It's win-win IMO.

Your sham of a club was 100% dependent on overseas players for a number of years - don't be so f'ing hypocritical.

Like I've said before, your youth policy has been forced, not chosen.

The Monkey?

At what point did I mention that was in the RFL's criteria ya yorkshire pud. We were talking about what we have to offer that some SL teams don't

Kinda, but what I meant was Quins have had to bring more through then other teams simply because they cannot afford to bring in experienced quality players to support the learning and development of the youth (due to been skint, e.g. because they have such woeful support) hence them been poor on the pitch at the mo.

I think we will take 1000 + supporters to more than half of the clubs in SL. Quite a few of the current SL clubs wont be doing this so this will be good for the competition. We took 1100 i rekon to Keighly this year and 7,8,900 fans to other clubs in Yorkshire. I can see 2000+ going to places like Warrington and St Helens and if we get the nod i can see us averaging 7,000-8,000 for the first two seasons.

People go on about us not playing well in this division and our team would be hopeless in SL. Lets take Halifax and Featherstone for example, two best teams this year, if they got the nod do people seriously think that the team they put out in SL would be similar to the one they have now? Not a chance. The salary cap rises by over £1m if we went to SL, whoever goes up would bring in at least 10 players or so. It hasn't worried me about where we finished this year and the quality of the side we have had out. Its allowed us to play some of our younger players who are 17,18 or 19. I can see these youngsters like Craven, Brown, Gerrard, Kelly and a couple of others going very very far in the game.

What about Leigh?

apart from the stadium we dont tick the right boxes.

What are the club doing to ensure they do?

Are attendances that far off?

What this says to me is you need to stop listening to the voices......

a few hundred down on the 2500 needed,which is still nowhere near enough for sle imo.

at the moment the club have reduced the price of ST's in the hope of attracting new customers.
i'm sure when the season starts the club will be doing a few promotions in an atempt to get more people in.

Apart from the regulars, who has won anything in the SL era?, their crowds are comparable with half the teams in SL and given their location and competition compare most favourably with the so called big clubs. As for a long term period in the championship thats where they differ from you because having been relegated twice[and before you say anything once under the same circumstances as you] they were good enough to get out of that division TWICE. You had the opportunity before in SL and failed miserably thats why you are where you are at the moment, unlike Cas what has managed the play offs in their extended run in the SL and thats with using their own junior development not players on dual contract, sorry squire the only thing you and the number of other clubs in the championship can compete with Cas is with your posh toilets.

Who's hacked Chissit's account?

I have a lot of time for the club and MOST of its fans, just the odd exception to a couple of them

Whoever it was managed to remember the trademark "squire". I always imagine chissitt tugging his forelock to the Baron of Wakefield or somesuch when reading his posts.