If Smith is going to pick players on form Most of the English Giants players should be in with a shout Crabtree and Mason have played most of the frontrowers in superleague off the park, why has every one opted for LMS before these 2 players and Wild is the top backrower in the league,tinted shades me thinks.

Apart from Peacock, Graham and Morley who will all be selected?

No he isn't.

Briscoe
Fox
Shenton
Atkins
Hall
Pryce
Myler
Carvell
Moore
Graham
Peacock
Ellis
Wild

Crabtree
Morley
Burgess
Mcguire

Carvell has done nothing to warrant a starting place this season.


Briscoe
Fox
Shenton
Atkins
Hall
Pryce
Myler
Morley
Roby
Peacock
Ellis
Burgess
O'Loughlin

Moore
Graham
Lynch
Westerman

1. Briscoe
2. Hall
3. Clubb
4. Pryce
5. Fox
6. McGuire
7. Myler/Burrow
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Peacock
11. Ellis
12. O'Loughlin
13. Burgess

14. Morley
15. Lynch
16. Sinfield ( Due to his versatility, if it's clear McGuire isn't effective Kevin is more than capable of stepping in. Would be used otherwise at dummy half)
17. Crabtree

i think i agree with sinfield on the bench....he is more than capable of filling in at 13,6 and 9...if needed...when u think about it he is the ultimate untility

Except for the fact that he's so very poor at Test level.

I can't see how he could provide any value whatsoever from the bench at Test level. Talk about non-impact.

I agree, i'd rather have Purdham on the bench. Or JJB.

No, that would be Elima, though I'll accept that he isn't English.

For France I would suggest:
Greenshields, Stacul, Raguin, Baile, Pelo, Bartheau, Bosc,
Martins, K. Bently, Guisset, Elima, Gossard, Fakir.
Replacements: Ferriol, Mounis, Duport, Casty.

This side is 100% Dragons/UTC with all players having had first-team experience in SL except for Bartheau (who played in the last international).

Hmm looking at a fair few teams here it seems like there is a lack of goal kickers in them! Unless you're wanting wellens to take them..

Burrow
Myler
Westerman
Burgess
Sinfield


All good kickers.

Gaz Ellis and O'Loughlin could have a crack, IIRC i remember both of these stepping in when their clubs had injuries?

Full back – Richie Mathers (I know you might shock that I choose him over than other full backs in Super League but why tony smith wants to have him come back to Warrington when he’s already manager for England team.. He had some experience of NRL and maybe he has some knowledge of this style passing and knowledge.)

Wing Back – Ryan Hall, Peter Fox

Centre – Ryan Atkins, Stephen Wild

Second row –Sam Burgess, Gareth Ellis

Loose Forward – Sean O’Loughlin

Half back – Paul Deacon
I would have choose Danny Brough but he have to wait until 2010! What a waste for his potential and best kicking in the Super league.

Stand off – Danny McGuire

Hooker - James Roby

Props - Jamie Peacock, James Graham

Bench
Louie McCarthy- Scarsbrook, Adrian Morley, Kevin Sinfield , Leon Pryce

Ellis was a goal kicker at junior level and at Lock Lane, kicked a few times for Wakefield's first team as well (couple of touch line kicks at Don Valley as well) so with some practice he could slot in, and I seem to remember O'loughlin kicking a few times too, so it's not like there's a shortage of kickers, it's just they aren't exactly the 90% kicker we would need unfortunately.

Richie Mathers played something like 6 NRL games!





The thing I am amazed by with all of your teams.

England was an atrocious embarrassment in the world cup....and yet you are all picking the same players with the same problems!

What would your England Squad be, just out of interest....

Mine would be...
1. Briscoe/Smith
2. Hall
3. Gleeson
4. Pryce
5. Fox
6. McGuire
7. Burrow (C)
8. Graham
9. Diskin
10. Morley
11. Ellis
12. Peacock
13. Sinfield

14. Burgess
15. Lynch
16. Yeaman
17. Crabtree

Leon Pryce, Danny McGuire, Keith Senior, Ade Gardner, Paul Wellens, Rob Burrow, Martin Gleeson, Kevin Sinfield should not be anywhere near an England shirt.

I would take a chance and go with:

Shaun Briscoe
Ryan Hall
Michael Shenton
Ryan Atkins
Peter Fox
Sam Tomkins
Kyle Eastmond
Adrian Morley
James Roby
Jamie Peacock
Gareth Ellis
Sam Burgess
Sean O'loughlin

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James Graham
Scott Moore
Jon Wilkin/Joe Westerman
Andy Lynch


Eorl Crabtree would be another decent shout but Andy Lynch has been overlooked too many times IMO.

andy lynch has ruled himself out...he's going on holiday with the missus or something

Seriously?

Bummer. Well Eorl Crabtree has been playing very well for me for Huddersfield. Gareth Carvell has been great playing along with Adrian Morley at Warrington.

Have you all forgotten about Stephen Wild? His form has been fantastic this season. Make a few of nice tries and play out of his normal position which is second row to centre. I rate him as one of best centre in the super league at the current..

I don’t think so the selection should pick players who hasn’t been play in the international level or a big game like grand final. It’s too risky and they might can’t cope the pressure of the high level like NRL players does know how to deal the huge pressure and high expectation when they play in the state of origin series. We English players don’t have like that the standard of rugby game so i think we have to be careful with the selection who’s right players for the four nations tournament.

I know some of you rather not to pick Leon Pryce and Kevin Sinfield after their performance in the world cup has been poorly and terrible! To be honest you need to see their form and statistics after the world cup. We can’t argue with that. I think they’ve learned from their mistake and make a good bounce back. They are still one of best players in the super league and that’s why I would consider picking them in the bench because they can play several different positions and been play a such many big games in the grand final and etc.

Don’t you agree with me?

Based on recent form :


Briscoe
Fox
Gleeson
Atkins
Hall
Tomkins
Brough ( is he allowed yet ?)
Peacock
Roby
Morley
Ellis
Burgess
O'loughlin

Lynch
Godwin
Graham
Wild

You know to be honest, at this stage, I dont care enough about it to throw together a side that would just lose anyway.

Thing is, I'd pick different players, not the same old losers.

That team would get slaughtered I'm afraid

Sam Tomkins and Kyle Eastmond are not ready to be Englands first choice halfback partnership

Briscoe
Fox
Shenton
Pryce
Hall
Tomkins
Burrow
Peacock
Moore
Graham
Wild
Ellis
O'Loughlin

Roby
Morley
Crabtree
Burgess

Why would anyone that has ever seen a game even think of chosing Rob Burrow?