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Quote: littlerich "I agree entirely, seeing as though NL1 doesn't exist anymore. Who dya reckon will win the Winfield Cup next year?'"


wow great argument

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why is it that it is the fans of the clubs that are the perpetual failures that are the most vociferous experts on why all these expansion clubs wont work out

its not as if they can learn from their own clubs experience as to what makes a succesful RL club so why should i listen to them?


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Quote: dally messenger "wow great argument


Well, your posts may stand more credibility if you can actually be bothered to get the correct names of the League's that clubs play in. Pedantic i know, but there you are.

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Quote: dally messenger "why is it that it is the fans of the clubs

How many "fans" are you talking about? A handful? Or have you canvassed opinion with a clip board over here to get a wider sample?

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: dally messenger "and those same people are hoping celtic will fail.

sadly for them they havent

so many flatcappers have all gone out and said that celtic will fail that if the crusaders by some miracle survive and even prosper they are going to look even more stupid

if thats possible'"


While many of us disagreed with their inclusion , we could also see the potential for failure , most however [ not all , some are still very bitter ] , now they are in SL want them to succeed , it might not be a ' Rationale ' that you can understand , but all we really want is a strong sport , at all levels , and when we see clubs being pushed too fast just because of their location we will continue to argue against it

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Quote: dally messenger "so many flatcappers have all gone out and said that celtic will fail that if the crusaders by some miracle survive and even prosper they are going to look even more stupid'"


That's their problem, why are you getting so hung up about how ridiculous they may look?

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: dally messenger "why is it that it is the fans of the clubs that are the perpetual failures that are the most vociferous experts on why all these expansion clubs wont work out

its not as if they can learn from their own clubs experience as to what makes a succesful RL club so why should i listen to them?



Maybe it's because having visited Bridgend on more than one occaision and spoken with the locals , both RL fans and non RL fans , seen the facilities , witnessed the crowds , got opinions from potential new fans of the owner , basically actually been there , we do have some experience

And then Toulouse , Having visited the place , so on , so on

Where have you gained your opinions from ?

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Can I just ask, how is dally not banned yet? He is trolling. None of his posts have anything other than insults in them to people that don't agree with him. Surely that is against the AUP? He was asked nicely after an excellent post by bowes to defend his argument without insulting people or saying flatcapper and the first thing he did was call him just that.

The thread has been derailed. He has shown he can't argue his point. He has shown he is just after attention. He has shown he has no knowledge on what he is talking about. He has shown his opinion is hypocritical when compared to the NRL. He is just not contributing. This forum would be a lot better off without him.

I have no problem with people with opposing opinions. It's just people that choose to derail thread after thread when they're found to have no knowledge or be complete hypocrits and are reduced to constant insults and trolling in order to get a jolly I have a problem with.

Dally, if you can't back it up, shut it up. At least SmokeyTA tries to back his arguments up.

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Quote: dally messenger "sydney

yorkshire

Do the 30 odd thousand sydney swans fans agree with that?

Or the 15 thousand sydney soccer fans?

What about all the cricket fans?

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Quote: Starbug "Where have you gained your opinions from ?'"


On here. That's where his problems lie icon_lol.gif

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Quote: dally messenger "what gets me is how the hell to random posters on an internet message board know if a club is ready or not for SL without seeing the clubs business plan?'"


I take it that this will be your last post on the subject then?

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Quote: dally messenger "and those same people are hoping celtic will fail.

sadly for them they havent

so many flatcappers have all gone out and said that celtic will fail that if the crusaders by some miracle survive and even prosper they are going to look even more stupid

if thats possible'"


It is not the people who thought that Celtic would fail who currently look stupid.

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Quote: dally messenger "ill never trust a flat capper for their definition of ready

they just keep adding on new excuses

between them and widnes, they are the only real applicants next time

with a few years trial run in NL1 thats enough time in the minor leagues'"


Do you think bowes' definition of Coventry "not being ready" for NL2 / CC! is an excuse because he doesn't want to see them polluting that league with their nasty midlands ways or that he genuinely thinks he might result in the death of the club that he is involved with?

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Quote: dally messenger "what gets me is how the hell to random posters on an internet message board know if a club is ready or not for SL without seeing the clubs business plan?

according to people that should know, the business plan of Toulose last time was a better one than the one LEs Cats submitted and were accepted into SL with. indeed the main reason toulose were excluded last time was to give Les Cats more time to get established, not through a failure or weakness on the part of toulose

so having to pick between the RFL, their accountants and lawyers or some random flatcapper who is biased as to when a club is ready, if the RFL make the choice ill go with them.

at least they take the facts into account and will do the best for the sport'"


I'd say that was partly true. Toulouse had just finished 7th in the French league and I would imagine that this entered into the RFL's thoughts.

Even so I think they might have made a better fist of it than Crusaders.

You really ought to put such faith in the RFL though, they have a proven track record of making dreadful decisions regarding expansion clubs. They would be better off flipping a coin instead because then at least they might be right half the time.

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