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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "You can't seriously be defending the number of non-British players at HKR.'"
I don't think anyone is stupid enough to do that, although I might be proven wrong
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "You can't seriously be defending the number of non-British players at HKR.'"
Did you just bypass my last two posts without looking at the 18 Homegrown/Hull born players in our squad for next year?
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| Quote: Easty "Not very up to date on your Rugby League are you. Out of our 25 man squad Rovers look like this.
HOMEGROWN
(3) Liam Watts
(7) Rhys Lovegrove
Now can Castleford do better...........................................Thought not!!'"
I'm not saying you're wrong, but how are these two "home grown". Liam Watts made his SL debut for Castleford. Lovegrove played for St George until 2007.
Can Castleford do better?
Arundel
Owen
Orr
Huby
Ferres (I think)
Walker
Milner
Massey
Thompson
Holmes
Davies
Clarke
Eden.
All played SL this year, most of them regularly. So yes.
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| Quote: Easty "Did you just bypass my last two posts without looking at the 18 Homegrown/Hull born players in our squad for next year?'"
No, the point is not the number of "homegrown/Hull-born" in the squad but the number of non-British players who stop most of them getting into the team!
And I don't see how "Hull born" is a particular advantage, Wakefield wouldn't be able to claim Castleford/Featherstone products as their own, so I'm not quite sure why KR should take credit for players developed elsewhere just because they were born in Hull?
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "I'm not saying you're wrong, but how are these two "home grown". Liam Watts made his SL debut for Castleford. Lovegrove played for St George until 2007.
Can Castleford do better?
Arundel
Owen
Orr
Huby
Ferres (I think)
Walker
Milner
Massey
Thompson
Holmes
Davies
Clarke
Eden.
All played SL this year, most of them regularly. So yes.'"
Liam Watts came to Rovers aged 16 Lovegrove 19 and are both registered with the RFL as homegrown players. We was always going to struggle in developing our own players for a couple of years but people only comment on the aspects of overseas players and not the young kids that are coming through our youth setup.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "I'm not saying you're wrong, but how are these two "home grown". Liam Watts made his SL debut for Castleford. Lovegrove played for St George until 2007.
Can Castleford do better?
Arundel
Owen
Orr
Huby
Ferres (I think)
Walker
Milner
Massey
Thompson
Holmes
Davies
Clarke
Eden.
All played SL this year, most of them regularly. So yes.'"
If memory serves Ferret made SL debut with Bradford.
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| Lovegrove came to Craven Park mid way through the 2007 season when he was 20. He got dispensation to be classed as home grown due to the rules changing in that year. His mother is English and he is proud to call himself English too.
I believe Liam Watts is classed as home grown too for similar reasons due to his age when he made his Rovers debut.
Technicalities they may be but Easty was just telling you the players classifications with the RFL.
Also our overseas contingent will be reducing as these youngsters come through but they need a couple more years before we can put the pressure on them 100%.
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| Quote: Willzay "If memory serves Ferret made SL debut with Bradford.'"
If the above poster is correct, it doesn't seem to matter where the player made his debut.
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| Quote: Easty " We was always going to struggle in developing our own players for a couple of years but people only comment on the aspects of overseas players and not the young kids that are coming through our youth setup.'"
This is what you should be saying. Simply listing players who have barely played in the first team does not show that HKR are developing local talent.
My worry is that if HKR continue to sign overseas players, the youngsters will never get the opportunity.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "This is what you should be saying. Simply listing players who have barely played in the first team does not show that HKR are developing local talent.
My worry is that if HKR continue to sign overseas players, the youngsters will never get the opportunity.'"
Mariano is an example of this.
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| Quote: Willzay "Mariano is an example of this.'"
You've signed him too?
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "You've signed him too?'"
What do you mean I have been watching Big Frankie play this entire season
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| Quote: Willzay "What do you mean I have been watching Big Frankie play this entire season'"
My apologies, I thought you were a HKR fan (in fairness there is no clue in your username).
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| Just for the record-
Cas British players(or whatever you want to call them).
Mathers
Dixon
Arundel
Owen
Orr
Jackson
Fozzard
Huby
Emmitt
Walker
Massey
Milner
Hudson
Clark
Thompson
Eden
Holmes
Jones
Aspinwall
Ferres
Davies
Snitch
Think that's them all
Cas home reared players
Owen
Arundel
Thompson
Eden
Orr
Huby
Massey
Walker
Milner
Clark
Holmes
Davies
Once again think that's them all
So according to my calculations we have slightly more HOME players than you, so next time do your research before opening your gob(or finger).
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| Quote: barnsley bill "
So according to my calculations we have slightly more HOME players than you, so next time do your research before opening your gob(or finger).'"
And indeed our "home grown" players have played many, many more 1st team games than the HKR "home-grown" players who are simply there to make up the numbers in training and for the purposes of the franchise application.
Maybe we should also mention the Castleford "home grown" players playing for other teams - Shenton, Westerman, Godwin, Boyle (who seems to have gone well at Salford this year), Lynch. Any more?
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