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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: bullpower2014 "If that is the starting 13, then I think Bennett has gone for a mongrel approach with plenty of added biff. Think a full blooded contest will bring the best out in England and the worst in Aus.

How much has Bateman played at centre for Wigan this year? Whitehead has spent a lot of time at centre too in the NRL.

As for those slating Widdop - NRL team of the year SO and 2nd in the Daly M.... surely without JT, he would have walked in the Aussie team if he was eligible.'"

Bateman hasn't played centre for us this year at all. We have had injuries there but he's either been injured himself, or deemed to important in the pack, so we have played Isa/Burgess/Forsyth there instead. Don't think he's played there more than five times for us ever. Did he ever play centre for Bradford?

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Lomax over Ratchford is the correct call imo. As an opposition fan I've always feared Lomax far more then Ratchford.

I just hope he's got his halfback pairing and sticks with it now. The chopping and changing last year was ridiculous. I'd love to see Williams get a crack off the bench at some point either in the halves or at hooker but it's a no brainier picking Roby. I'm far less convinced by Hodgson in an England shirt then I've ever been by Roby. I thought he killed our halves last year by trying too much and stepping out of dummy half on every play before passing, which starved them of early ball and space.

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Quote: Grimmy "Don't think he's played there more than five times for us ever. Did he ever play centre for Bradford?'"


Probably but I wouldn't read too much into that, we excelled in playing people out of position, just ask Danny Addy icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Asgardian13 "I can't understand this selection. If Bennett thinks we need sound defense at left centre then Michael Shenton is the obvious choice. Shenton sometimes shows limitations in attack, but his defence is impeccable, and as a specialist centre he's streets ahead of Bateman for that role. The only reason to leave Shenton out is if you're going to select an out-and-out attacking centre (of which there are few, but Percival is the nearest in this squad).'"



Shenton's limitations in attack have seen him provide more assists then any centre and more then most half backs.

Would argue McMeekan would be a better centre then Bateman. That said Bennett is top dog.

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Quote: Grimmy " Did he ever play centre for Bradford?'"


Don't think he ever did. Whitehead played there a few teams, but whitehead has pretty much played on the right hand side nearly all his professional career.

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Quote: cravenpark1 "PUT laxatives in their water or half time tea or coffee that will do the trick (just do not get caught doing it)
It might be wise to get the bob martins in their pre match drinks, give em time to work icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Towns88 "Shenton's limitations in attack have seen him provide more assists then any centre and more then most half backs.

Would argue McMeekan would be a better centre then Bateman. That said Bennett is top dog.'"


Is Shenton fit? There were rumours he hurt his groin in the build up to the GF and his efforts for Briscoe's two tries he didn't look too good.

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If Wayne bennets knowledge on the game is an ocean, by comparison people on here, their knowledge is a grain of sand.

And yet we have people stating we should "try something different, throw the ball around abit". Yeah, great, I'm sure Bennet is taking tips.

Jesus H.

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Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "We can't match the Aussies at their own game so we should be looking to adapt. Why not try throwing the ball around and cause confusion in their defence. Get them chasing the ball for once. I'd rather lose a game 50 - 28 by throwing the ball around and having a dig than trying to match the Aussies style and losing 38-12.'"


Well well well, looky what we have here

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Can't bloody wait for this.

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I think Australia will win if Starc & Cummings bowl well

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Quote: FlexWheeler "If Wayne bennets knowledge on the game is an ocean, by comparison people on here, their knowledge is a grain of sand.

And yet we have people stating we should "try something different, throw the ball around abit". Yeah, great, I'm sure Bennet is taking tips.

Jesus H.'"


Okay Wayne Bennet knows all. Let's shut down RLFans and any other RL forum that dares to discuss rugby league.

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Quote: Willzay "Okay Wayne Bennet knows all. Let's shut down RLFans and any other RL forum that dares to discuss rugby league.'"


If the depth of the discussion is to "try something different, throw the ball around" then yeah, shut down rl fans.

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A controlled offload game might be a good idea. Sadly most of the time England try that sort of game we just end up coughing the ball up in bad positions due to trying to force it too often. Given our error rate is generally too high anyway, that just adds to our problems. One of the key things we need to do is react much faster as a team to things such as turnovers. In Origin and for Australia as soon as the ball hits the deck the whole team is lightning fast to realign in attack or defence. That is a big difference - it means the Aussie defence is already set when we pick up a loose ball and look to move it around, but when the Aussies get it they are often facing a defence in complete disarray.

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We need to play a smart game were we do not push the ball, were we simply play straight sets of 6 and set our defenses.

Once we are on top of our defence we can let our backs take over, that might not be in this game, but maybe in the next game, but whatever happened, this is not a CUP match and the tournement doesn't end if England lose, this is were we set our platform.

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