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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: dubairl " And Aviva premiership attendance figures are nowhere near super league figures, they are massively inflated for what ever reason on there reports.'"

Insecure much? icon_eek.gif Are you really going to try and debate that Union lies about their crowds and in fact Superleague get a bigger average? You are seriously the Aviva premiership clubs inflate the attendances so they can pay more tax on the ticket revenue? icon_lol.gif
Seriously...lol d040.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

The Aviva premiership crowds are helped out by the occasional "event" game, in the same way the NRL uses "event" games as well as OTR games to boost their averages. For example, Harlequins RFC averaged 21,046 in 2013 (or a similar figure depending where you get your data) in the Aviva Premiership.....I believe the Stoop holds 14,850......so it was the Boxing day event game that boosted their average that year. Same in the NRL, where the warriors averaged 16,197, but actually it was more like 13,000 at Mt Smart but with "event" games at the Westpac and Eden Park they boosted it.

I still can't believe you think that the sponsors and money men who throw cash at Union do so because those sneaky s at the RFU are inflating attendances... icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db] Warrington Wolfs - 0 Wakefield Trinity - 0 Leigh Centurions - 0 [quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]:



Why does rugby league need to attract a higher social class of spectators anyway? :S

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Quote: gutterfax "Insecure much?
watching saracens game last weekend they said the attendance was 16k or around that number it was closer to 12k. Or last season when saracens used there EVENT day towards there attendance. The difference is we are talking about super league never mind NRL and Eden park isn't even close to the same circumstance as union clubs using twickenham.

Who said anything about money or sponsors now stop trying to twist the fact that majority of twickenham fans don't bother following club rugby and really they just use it a social event.

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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db] Warrington Wolfs - 0 Wakefield Trinity - 0 Leigh Centurions - 0 [quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]:



Rugby union has a higher average attendence at club level than rugby league.

Sad but true.

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Quote: dubairl "you have just proven my point. They don't get big crowds at club level'"

Home attendance averages last completed season (SL 2013 & Aviva Premiership 2012-13)
1. Leicester Tigers - 256,687/11
2. Harlequins - 219,631/11
3. Saracens - 200,871/11
4. Leeds Rhinos - 197,556/13
5. Wigan - 189,084/13
6. Gloucester - 154,404/11
7. Northampton - 140,414/11
8. London Wasps - 129,644/11
9. Hull FC - 151,843/13
10. Bath - 126,681/11
11. St Helens - 147,483/13
12. Warrington - 138,232/13
13. London Irish - 104,181/11
14. Worcester - 102,370/11
15. Bradford Bulls - 111,320/13
16. Catalans - 108,719/13
17. Exeter - 91,608/11
18. Wakefield - 103,635/13
19. Hull KR - 97,430/13
20. Sale - 80,201/11
21. Huddersfield - 82,790/13
22. Castleford - 81,979/13
23. Widnes - 78,191/13
24. London Welsh - 55,990/11
25. Salford - 40,622/13
26. London Broncos - 28,775/13

Super League Total & Average (2013)
Aviva Premiership Total & Average (2012-13)


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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: dubairl "watching saracens game last weekend they said the attendance was 16k or around that number it was closer to 12k.'"

Saracens played Toulouse last weekend according to the BBC. 18,838 was the stated crowd. The previous weekend, they were again away, at Gloucester where 13,800 was the recorded attendance.....I have no reason to believe that either figure is made up and nor would I take the opinion of someone watching on TV over these actually officially reported attendances.
Seriously, you should seek help for this level of insecurity. c020.gif

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: William Eve "Super League Total & Average (2013)
Aviva Premiership Total & Average (2012-13)
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There are posters here who would have you believe in the sanctity of the RL numbers but for some reason, they are happy to question the Union ones icon_wink.gif ......Insecurity must be catching icon_cool.gif

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Quote: gutterfax "There are posters here who would have you believe in the sanctity of the RL numbers but for some reason, they are happy to question the Union ones icon_cool.gif

Those Union attendance figures which I compiled are a surprise to me. I had an idea that Aviva Premiership attendances were higher than those in Super League, but only marginally, and certainly not as much as over 47% higher on average! icon_eek.gif

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: William Eve "I had an idea that Aviva Premiership attendances were higher than those in Super League, but only marginally, and certainly not as much as over 47% higher on average! ....ah, but not if you remove those "event games" as well as double headers, take Leicester Tigers away from the equation and ignore games that kick off at 3pm on a Saturday...then they are not as big at all. Then, if you remove all the middle and upper middle class s who went to public school who pay over 50 quid each to go to Twickenham, as well as ignoring all the millions of people who tune in to watch the 6 nations, you can convince yourself that Rugby League is more popular as far as the British Public think and not a Northern Hobby played by pit towns along a motorway as well as by an invitational side from London and one from France! icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: dubairl "is that a kiwiism?

you have just proven my point. They don't get big crowds at club level but they do at international level because they see it as an event and not a religion like rugby league fans. As the majority of those 81k don't have season tickets and follow club teams around all season they can afford to pay 50quid a ticket. Also population of down south compared to north? And Aviva premiership attendance figures are nowhere near super league figures, they are massively inflated for what ever reason on there reports I watch a lot of union on tv and used to play a fair bit. Also yes people do like to socialize at there local rugby club a bit like they love to socialize at Twickenham.

are you seriously saying the reason club level rugby doesn't draw big crowds is because there still not used to being professional? just because the players never used to get paid the fans still used to pay memberships and entrances fees the club was still ran as a business.'"



Leicester Tigers crowds wee all over most SL crowds chump. Wash your flat cap.

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Quote: Lebron James "Why does rugby league need to attract a higher social class of spectators anyway?
So, according to you, the game should remain in the bowels of low socio-economic sub-culture of British society? Sorry chump, we don't all holiday in Benidorm and watch Big Brother...... icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Lebron James "Rugby union has a higher average attendence at club level than rugby league.

Sad but true.

Regards

King James'"


RU has a much higher caliber of personnel supporting the game too. That is why RU is much cash rich. Not hard to work out is it?

RL - has an image of flat caps, £1 shops and dumb pork pie eating fat northerners who love holidaying in the cultural hub of Benidorm... icon_lol.gif

RU - has a much more sophisticated image of culture, wine, arts and enjoys the more intricate holiday destinations of Spain (away from the tackiness)....

PS, I prefer RL as a sport but am starting to resent the stupid sub-culture RL has. The NRL is the only way out.

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Quote: William Eve "Home attendance averages last completed season (SL 2013 & Aviva Premiership 2012-13)
1. Leicester Tigers - 256,687/11
2. Harlequins - 219,631/11
3. Saracens - 200,871/11
4. Leeds Rhinos - 197,556/13
5. Wigan - 189,084/13
6. Gloucester - 154,404/11
7. Northampton - 140,414/11
8. London Wasps - 129,644/11
9. Hull FC - 151,843/13
10. Bath - 126,681/11
11. St Helens - 147,483/13
12. Warrington - 138,232/13
13. London Irish - 104,181/11
14. Worcester - 102,370/11
15. Bradford Bulls - 111,320/13
16. Catalans - 108,719/13
17. Exeter - 91,608/11
18. Wakefield - 103,635/13
19. Hull KR - 97,430/13
20. Sale - 80,201/11
21. Huddersfield - 82,790/13
22. Castleford - 81,979/13
23. Widnes - 78,191/13
24. London Welsh - 55,990/11
25. Salford - 40,622/13
26. London Broncos - 28,775/13

Super League Total & Average (2013)
Aviva Premiership Total & Average (2012-13)
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Good work! SHOCK HORROR - RL in denial......

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Re an earlier point about introducing RL into schools (especially here in the South) and setting up leagues. This was done a few years ago by Shane Rampling the player/coach of St.Albans Centurions (now coaching back in Australia)
He along with others really helped introduced RL to the Hatfield/St.Albans area which had previously being dominated by onion and with the help of the club have an established juniors section as well as the schools participating regularly.
Same thing with Hemel also. Medway Dragons are a superb example of what can be achieved in a relatively short space of time, but without further support nor a higher echelon club there is often a drop off or no further progress..vicious circle really
The Southern regions do have a taste for Rl, it just needs constant backing by the RFL in a way that makes sense..not their strong point sadly

We had the St.Albans cents minis along with the Verulamium schoolboys leading out the England & NZ teams at wembley , organised by Gary Tetlow (co-founder of St.Albans cents) he was the leading force behind the 800 tickets sales for the RLWC just from the club alone including many whom had never gone to a game of rugby..period

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I'm in the affluent classes and a RL fan, we are out there! icon_smile.gif

TBH looking at price of tickets to RL game in UK and Oz I think you have to be reasonably affluent to watch any sport live these days!

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