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| Quote: Snowy "What exacly defines 'do a Leigh' ?
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The championships are a fantastic division, and they should concentrate on being a fantastic division rather than being a division where the sole reason it exists is for clubs to try and get out of it.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "The championships are a fantastic division, and they should concentrate on being a fantastic division rather than being a division where the sole reason it exists is for clubs to try and get out of it.'"
I don't think all clubs see it as being the "sole reason it exists". Promotion provides possibilities, however remote, that they can aspire to improve toward. That some may never get promotion is irrelevant if it can be used as a driver for management, sponsors and fans to improve the club.
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| Quote: Dreamer "I don't think all clubs see it as being the "sole reason it exists". Promotion provides possibilities, however remote, that they can aspire to improve toward. That some may never get promotion is irrelevant if it can be used as a driver for management, sponsors and fans to improve the club.'"
Yet P+R removes the necessity for that ‘possibility’ to be based upon management, sponsors and fans improving the club. It is based solely on the first team put out.
There is nothing wrong the clubs in the championships using the improvement of the championships and themselves as their drive for management, sponsors and fans to improve the club. There is no reason for the only driver for management, sponsors and fans to improve the club management, sponsors and fans to improve the club to be getting out of the championships.
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| Dreamer is right of course.
Wouldn't evny Smokey telling the Championship soccer clubs that they'd never get out of that league because he'd decided it was best to make the Premier League a closed shop with its current constituent clubs and scrap promotion
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| Quote: Mr Churchill "Dreamer is right of course.
Wouldn't evny Smokey telling the Championship soccer clubs that they'd never get out of that league because he'd decided it was best to make the Premier League a closed shop with its current constituent clubs and scrap promotion
and relegation arrangements.'"
Yeah, cos they are comparable. I mean its not like the parachute payment for one Championship club is more than the entire turnover of RL is it.......................Oh.
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| Quote: Snowy "What exacly defines 'do a Leigh' ?
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Moan and moan about not being allowed in SL for years, go on about how good the attendances will be when you get your chance, get promoted, get rubbish crowds, get relegated straight away.
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| Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "And how can you sustain the club in SL with 2k home gates without a very wealthy benefactor? Hull KR struggle with 8k crowds.'"
Hull KR averaged less than 2K when they were in National League One....do you recall ?
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| Quote: terrykelly "Hull KR averaged less than 2K when they were in National League One....do you recall ?'"
and without a generous benefactor pouring money in HKR would be bust despite their growth.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "and without a generous benefactor pouring money in HKR would be bust despite their growth.'"
Thank you Smokey. Saved me the time.
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| Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "Thank you Smokey. Saved me the time.'"
Its an argument I will never understand why they make.
“look at club A its rubbish and failing, why not promote us, with a bit of luck we could do that as well”
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| Quote: Tre Cool "Moan and moan about not being allowed in SL for years, go on about how good the attendances will be when you get your chance, get promoted, get rubbish crowds, get relegated straight away.'"
You really don't get it do you ?
Leigh still exist, Leigh are thriving and growing and Leigh deserve the chance to go further considering they have on of the best grounds in the RFL !!
2005 was a dog of a year. As for rubbish crowds ?? I'd check again mate, as our lowest attendace was 3200 v London and we had 3 7k plus crowds in a ground of a limited capacity of 8000.
Franchising has almost killed off some SL clubs as they pay top money to players to remain competative. Its about time that people from the top realise that Franchising is doing no good for the game.
Bring back the dream and embrace new blood. Thats not expansion, thats promotion and relegation !!
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "and without a generous benefactor pouring money in HKR would be bust despite their growth.'"
As would last seasons ' League Leaders ' in SL
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| Quote: Starbug "As would last seasons ' League Leaders ' in SL'"
True. But Hull KR and Huddersfield both have said generous benefactors willing to bankroll them.
Does Mr Nahaboo and his pyramid scheme, sorry mutli-level marketing operation, have enough money to be putting in more than Crossland and Davey? (because lets be honest, fev arent getting a 7-9k average)
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| Super League feels like it has lost its appeal at the moment anyway, gone are the days that me and all my mates where excited when Friday came round so we could all go the pub and watch the match (whoever was playing).
The Championship chases Super League like Super League chases the NRL, the only difference is The Championship has closed the gap whereas the Super League is further away than it ever has been.
Over recent years the Championship has grown IMO, with the TV coverage, sponsors, attendances, competitive teams, stadium developments, club structures & finances, to the point where there is very little between the bottom 4 of Super League and the top 4 in the Championship. im sure somebody will pick holes in this though.
SL needs to be cut, as its just not "Super" enough anymore!
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| Quote: Snowy "You really don't get it do you ?
Leigh still exist, Leigh are thriving and growing and Leigh deserve the chance to go further considering they have on of the best grounds in the RFL !!
2005 was a dog of a year. As for rubbish crowds ?? I'd check again mate, as our lowest attendace was 3200 v London and we had 3 7k plus crowds in a ground of a limited capacity of 8000.
Franchising has almost killed off some SL clubs as they pay top money to players to remain competative. Its about time that people from the top realise that Franchising is doing no good for the game.
Bring back the dream and embrace new blood. Thats not expansion, thats promotion and relegation !!'"
Don't get what?
De ja vu. Give us a chance! we're thriving! we've got 1000s of supporters just waiting to turn up when we get into SL!
Im not sure why you're comparing yourself to the WORST SUPPORTED AND RUN CLUB IN SUPER LEAGUE?? London are not the benchmark, we are absolutely pants and if that's all Leigh and Featherstone plan to offer (better than London) then Im not impressed and neither should the RFL be!!!
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