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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: jonny the leyther "When did I insult you?

I said it's hard to read people's posts when they put quotation marks all over the place, and that you spat your dummy out, which you did.'"


So everybody that at some point used to watch Leigh and dont currently do so have ' spat out their dummies and abandoned their club '

You dont think of that as an insult?

Have you ever thought of working in marketing at Leigh ?

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No, people in my family can't or don't go to games for varios reasons, but none of them have had a hissy fit, abandoned the club and become a laughing stock. That's not me insulting you that's you doing it to yourself. If I was insulting you i'd say 'Starbug is a ****' 'You are a ****' etc, which I havn't done.

I've actually put quite a few ideas to the club to John Roddy and Trevor Barton if you must know.

I can't dedicate too much of my time, but myself and another bloke, John Williams have started to get the Junior club back on it's feet, with a sponsor now, memberships up by over 300% on last season and now quite a lot of money in the bank.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: jonny the leyther "No, people in my family can't or don't go to games for varios reasons, but none of them have had a hissy fit, abandoned the club and become a laughing stock. That's not me insulting you that's you doing it to yourself. If I was insulting you i'd say 'Starbug is a ****' 'You are a ****' etc, which I havn't done.

I've actually put quite a few ideas to the club to John Roddy and Trevor Barton if you must know.

I can't dedicate too much of my time, but myself and another bloke, John Williams have started to get the Junior club back on it's feet, with a sponsor now, memberships up by over 300% on last season and now quite a lot of money in the bank.'"


So ' various reasons ' is ok, but bored and uninspired isnt? , that you conclude as a hissy fit and abandoning ?

Its good to see fans, especially passionte ones that care giving time and ideas to the club, why you feel the need to mention it right now I can only wonder at, I am not attacking the club here, so why do you feel the need to defend it ?

So jonny, you have de railed your own thread, I am happy to leave it there and let the Championship and SL fans discuss tge upcoming play offs, providing you dont keep insulting me

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But they don't come on here preaching to everyone that's trying to enjoy the game.

Anyway, this has killed off most of my shift and really entertained me.

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Who are classed as the Champion of the Championship, is it the league leaders or the play off winners?

In Championship 1 it is the league leaders this year who get crowned and get the big prize pot, but that's not usual...is it?

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Oh looord this is hilarious.
Well done Jonny for advertising what a good product the championship is. It's a shame about the attendances but i'm not sure the move to Premier Sports was such a good one. I'm not privvy to the financial details but a lot of 'casual' speccies are now no longer watching championship games, depends on the financial burden/benefit.

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Mummy duck is now thoroughly depressed. SHE was the one that was famous for losing five in a row........until the 2011 GF!!!!!:



Quote: Jemmo "Who are classed as the Champion of the Championship, is it the league leaders or the play off winners?

In Championship 1 it is the league leaders this year who get crowned and get the big prize pot, but that's not usual...is it?'"


I believe that the play-off winners are the champions.

Championship 1 is a weird one as the team who finished top got automatic promotion and didnt take part in the play-offs, hence only right they were crowned champions. I think this happened to Swinton last year. 2012 will be even weirder as there are 4 teams going up.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Dico "Oh looord this is hilarious.
Well done Jonny for advertising what a good product the championship is. It's a shame about the attendances but i'm not sure the move to Premier Sports was such a good one. I'm not privvy to the financial details but a lot of 'casual' speccies are now no longer watching championship games, depends on the financial burden/benefit.'"


Glad you enjoyed the ' handbags ' icon_biggrin.gif

The move to PS hasnt made much if any difference to attendances , its playing thursday that kills them, other than that the reccession and the percieved lack of ' end product ' to winning the competition is what is slowly eating into them, the rugby is pretty good overall

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Of course however under Skys tenure there were average viewing figures of say 80k (some were as high as 100k), now depending on the financial details of the PS deal, I thought 80k watching a semi pro sports comp on a thursday wasnt half bad going. I suppose ateotd the clubs probably voted for whats best for them, I just think i'm annoyed that Virgin wont back Premier.

Secondly does no one think 4 teams being promoted was a little too much? I can see the benefits for the Chp but a completely expansion 10 team Chp 1? Im really not sure on that one unless they play 3 times each, 12 each may have been a better alternative

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Quote: Dico "Of course however under Skys tenure there were average viewing figures of say 80k (some were as high as 100k), now depending on the financial details of the PS deal, I thought 80k watching a semi pro sports comp on a thursday wasnt half bad going. I suppose ateotd the clubs probably voted for whats best for them, I just think i'm annoyed that Virgin wont back Premier.

Secondly does no one think 4 teams being promoted was a little too much? I can see the benefits for the Chp but a completely expansion 10 team Chp 1? Im really not sure on that one unless they play 3 times each, 12 each may have been a better alternative'"



There is no financial details , the clubs get nothing , sorry yes , they get £ 10 per new subscriber that identifys their Championship club , Fax got £ 1,600 it was posted

I dont think the clubs voted on it , they gave up the negociations to any TV coverage to the RFL several years ago

I agree , and stated as much when it was announced , I understand the logic behind it [ ie essentially 8 expansion clubs all at a similar level , so no one club is completely uncompetitive ] but it basically makes Championship 1 similar to the old NL 3 , and the travel costs for some of the clubs will be huge , not to mention the requirement on players time [ the Gateshead lads had better get used to the inside of the bus , they are going to be spending a lot of time in it next season ]

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So the team in 5th in championship 1 can win the playoffs( ie the final) and not get promoted, what a joke icon_exclaim.gif

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I can see why they nailed it down at the start of the season to the 4 teams, no late interesting signings, a bad injury run cant completely derail you, it negates the playoffs to an extent but all the clubs definately agreed on that before they kicked off so, whatever will be will be

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Quote: Dick Jones "So the team in 5th in championship 1 can win the playoffs( ie the final) and not get promoted, what a joke
It's more analogous to the old Premiership system

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I could increase attendances and have posted the formula before.

Play junior games in the early afternoon second team games after the junior games and then the first team game = more product for your money.

Secondly championship clubs of all divisions grow some balls take your game into your hands tells the RFL you want more control. They have a product that will sell, sell it to terrestrial TV. Sell it at a fair price, not free like the RFL did but a fair price. Terrestrial TV gives potential for more people watching meaning you can attract better advertising deals play the televised games on a Sunday, less disruption to clubs more people relaxing at home = more viewers. The added TV will make people support a team they see, they will want to see their team live, not every week but a few times a season some will then go eventually every game. Play a mid-week cup competition one game televised with a round up at the start or end of the Sunday televised game.

I truly believe that done right the championship could become better than super League. The games are overall a lot closer and their for, more exciting.

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Quote: Always Travelling "I truly believe that done right the championship could become better than super League. The games are overall a lot closer and their for, more exciting.'"


Yeah, it's not like the Championship contains whipping boys like York, Swinton and Hunslet. It's not like Swinton conceded 90+ points against Featherstone either.

The Champ has a long way to go yet. I will hold my breath for the promoted teams next year.

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