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| Quote: Odemwingie "Part of this problem comes with having so many teams in super league. The championship would look a lot stronger if they lost (just for example) York, Hunslet, Batley and Dewsbury but then gained.... Quins, Salford, Crusaders and Wakey.
You would end up with 8 clubs who have been in super league at some point along with Toulouse who will potentially apply within the next few years along with Barrow. Then there is also Featherstone who would hopefully be able to afford this through a better tv deal. Maybe even throw in south wales and/or the skolars which might help with the tv deal.
You would hope that league could afford a 1m salary cap.
In football they have so many big clubs that they can have PandR with a 20 team top flight along with a 24 team second tier and they still have clubs below that level bigger than any club in super league. Super league would be much higher quality with less teams and this would also clearly imrpove the challenge cup. I bet the 4 teams mentioned don't even spend to the full cap anyway. Also, if this was the case, maybe all the applications for a franchise would be from the 3rd tier and you could have PandR between the top two divisions providing facilities are up to standard. That would satisfy flatcappers and people like me who think franchising is a good idea.'"
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OLDHAM RLFC
RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
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| Quote: roughyedspud "what cup magic? its dying on its booty
we go to hull this weekend...we're gonna get 70pts put on us and our bus fair home...if we're lucky ![]()
82-0.....
absolutely pointless.....only the top 2 or 3 teams in the championship are able to keep the score some what respectable....so part of my revamp where only 2 championship clubs make the 5th round makes more sense than ever....
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3,563 at St Helens today. They need to do something IMO.
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How about scrapping the free ticket to passholders scheme and the seeding the 5th round draw so that all SL clubs play away at a lower league club? Income for the smaller club and higher chnce of upsets.
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OLDHAM RLFC
RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
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NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
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we're lucky if we get a upset once every 5 years...
this 4th round is a round our top players don't need to play...they could miss this round and enter at the next round with 2 championship teams.....
what we could do is,like i said, have the earlier rounds as the challenge shield, which would leave just 2 championship teams after round 4...those 2 teams would then join the 14 SL clubs in a open draw for the 5th round.......
its the future!
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The lower leagues have the northern rail cup
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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5]
Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg |
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| Quote: roughyedspud "82-0.....
absolutely pointless.....only the top 2 or 3 teams in the championship are able to keep the score some what respectable....so part of my revamp where only 2 championship clubs make the 5th round makes more sense than ever....'"
If your team lost 82 - 0 to a side like Hull they really shouldn't be playing the game in any league. | | |
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RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
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Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
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| Quote: PHIPPS "If your team lost 82 - 0 to a side like Hull they really shouldn't be playing the game in any league.'"
look everyone.......a village idiot!
how can i best explain this??.....its like wentworthville or cabramatta from the bundaberg cup playing canberra or gold coast from the NRL........it ain't gonna be pretty
sh*t damn i forgot...a bundaberg cup side would be england....damn sorry my mistake | | | |
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| Quote: roughyedspud "look everyone.......a village idiot! '"
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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5]
Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg |
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| Quote: roughyedspud "look everyone.......a village idiot!
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Poor jonny. Thats a bit harsh really.
My point was... it was [sizeHULL FC[/size
It wasn't Warrington or St Helens.
There is no team in the world that should lose by 82 points to Hull. | | |
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| Quote: PHIPPS "Poor jonny. Thats a bit harsh really.
My point was... it was [sizeHULL FC[/size
It wasn't Warrington or St Helens.
There is no team in the world that should lose by 82 points to Hull.'"
You mean those two sides Hull just beat and drew against? | | |
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "You mean those two sides Hull just beat and drew against?'"
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286 |
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365 |
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