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Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery....... I will look to the moment, and miraculously, the future will take care of itself. Radio 5 Live, Sat, April 14th, 2007,...Dave Whelan, "In Wigan, rugby will always be king" 'I was certain, positive, convinced, and yet..........unsure' 'It's only rock 'n' roll, but I like it' Worry will not prevent destiny from unfolding.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3632.jpg



Quote: griswold "King Piemon, you are so right as always

I agree. He is rubbish.

Instead of signing King, Monaghan, Hicks & Anderson I am so jealous Wigan signed Coley, Carmont, the Invisible Man & Mathers. Why can't we sign players of that calibre?

But then again, as Maurice said, we're not Wigan are we?[/quote]

And you never will be !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It's amazing how people can give such a detailed view of somebody that they've only seen play on SKY so far, in these games he has scored 2 tries in just over 170 minutes of action.

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I have said since day one in my opinion King is overrated. When the discussion was going on preseason I stated then I felt Matt Cooper is the better centre and after that I feel Gasnier, Bell and Hodges are even better.
Having said that I think any centre playing on the left for us is on a downer to begin with. We still attack the right 7/10. On the other hand Gleeson has been fantastic up to now for us and having King on the other side certainly has spread the defences so to speak. Gives us that other option.

Is Carmont better than King? Never, is King overrated? I personally think so.

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Quote: Cruncher "Why, do you think it's possible he's on less than Carmont?

Put it this way, even Mr. Overspend himself, Maurice Lindsay, pulled back from the deal King wanted.'"


Do you know the reason why? I do.

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Quote: Mugwump "Typical pie-eaters, never seeing the big picture.

Gidley (Missed tackles - 1)
Carmont (Missed tackles - 10)



Carmont certainly proves Wigan know how to spot a great player.</irony>'"


For a start I'm not a pie-eater. I'm from Yorkshire.

And how is just missed tackles the bigger picture? It's also well then to point outMatt Gidley

Meters 466
Carries 73
Tackles 101
Offloads 11


George Carmont


544 Meters
87 Carries
118 Tackles
13 Offloads


While we're at itMatt Gidley

Tackle Busts 7
Marker tackles 14
Clean Breaks 0


George Carmont

10 Tackle Busts
20 Marker tackles
6 Clean Breaks



That a big enough picture for ya? icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Lefty "It's not my money I don't care. I mean oh my god we had to let Henry Fa'afili go to fit King under the cap!

All I care about is that I would rather have King than Carmont and I would guess that most sensible Wigan fans would too. After all Wigan were in for him first.'"


We were however pulled out because he proved to expensive and we couldn't
fit him under the cap. So made the more sensible move to sign George Carmont who is on a lot less than Matt King and so far his stats are far better than King's.

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Quote: cadoo "We were however pulled out because he proved to expensive and we couldn't
fit him under the cap. So made the more sensible move to sign George Carmont who is on a lot less than Matt King and so far his stats are far better than King's.'"


so, matt king or george carmont? who d'ya want in your team?

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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg



Quote: PsychoBabble "Welcome back, didn't hear much from you after the Wire match and then total invisibility after Good Friday but clearly your teams' devastation of HKR on Monday has brought out the best in you.
For the record I think I speak for the majority of Wire fans when I say what a t!t we all think you are. I appreciate you will respond with the old "another bite" response but I am equally certain in my judgement that you are the David Vaeliki (sp) of this forum.'"
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Oh and like i care what all you wire fans think

And yes it is a bite thank you icon_lol.gif

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Quote: wire74 "so, matt king or george carmont? who d'ya want in your team?'"


Taking into consideration wages the two players are on and their stats so far.

George Carmont.

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Quote: cadoo "Put it this way I am more happy with the start George Carmont has made and the wage he is on. Compared to the start Matt King has made and the wage he is on.'"


Matt kings basic wage per season in pounds sterling is?

George Carmonts basic wage per season in pounds sterling is?

And the proof of such wages is where? (please provide link)

I'll work out the difference for you.

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Quote: cadoo "Taking into consideration wages the two players are on and their stats so far.

George Carmont.'"


so you're happy with georgie, i'm more than happy watching matt king in the p+b. win/win situation. we're all happy icon_smile.gif (except for dico, i think icon_smile.gif )

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Quote: king piemon "Is it me or is he a waste of money?

He's done nothing this season and is injured most of the time

I think he's on a holiday'"


I am very confident that when the weather gets better and the pitches get better...Matt King will ram this statement down your fat pie eating neck icon_cool.gif

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Quote: BelleVueLifer "Matt kings basic wage per season in pounds sterling is?

George Carmonts basic wage per season in pounds sterling is?

And the proof of such wages is where? (please provide link)

I'll work out the difference for you.'"


Matt king is 1.3 million over 4 years.

As for Carmont Wigan announced they had 140K on the cap and signed Mathers and Karl Pryce and in addition Carmont.

rlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/wigan/7115051.stmrl

[i"His try-scoring ability and excellent defensive qualities add value and strength to our back line without breaking the bank."[/i

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Quote: cadoo "Matt king is 1.3 million over 4 years.

As for Carmont Wigan announced they had 140K on the cap and signed Mathers and Karl Pryce and in addition Carmont.

rlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/wigan/7115051.stmrl

[i"His try-scoring ability and excellent defensive qualities add value and strength to our back line without breaking the bank."[/i'"


was this actually made public? (serious question)

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