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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg
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Quote: mapleyther "Looking to me like a London v Toronto MPG in London in front of a bumper 3-figure crowd. What an absolute farce.'"

The 2,500 at London will
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b/generate more revenue on the gate than 5k (reported as 8k) in Toronto
c/ will have fewer than 10 canadians in attendance including the team, coaching and backroom staff, cheerleaders and waterboy! icon_cool.gif
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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg
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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "NRL crowds are up 5.5 per cent year on year, with an average crowd in 2018 of 16,620.Those figures are from the end of May.'"


The correct figure for the entire regular season is 2.3% (15,260) up on 2017 (14,919) which basically regained the loss from 2016 (15,214). NRL crowds are down 7% over the last 9 years from a a high of 16,406 in 2010.....Gold coast v Manly got 5,135 this year.....

Greater Western Sydney AFL side, the sick puppy and running joke among insecure Aussie NRL fans achieved a better average attendance this year than both Manly and Paramatta....as did the Western Sydney Soccer side......the Sydney Swans AFL side achieved the highest average attendance in bot the city as well as over all 16 NRL sides including Brisbane.

As for the comparison with Salford, Manchester and its suburbs doesn't lay (false) claim to be the home of the biggest and most popular game in the country, Sydney does and it's a lie......the attendances at NRL games are shocking and the reason that 11 of the 16 NRL clubs will post losses this year (before income from their pokey addicted league clubs is added).

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Clubs not paying their players is a farce, ex-Leigh players taking the club to court for their wages'"


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Salford are in Super League next season, well done to them. :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg
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Looking Like London v Toronto with just the venue to be decided, but for the weekend, I a a Leeds ad Chemics fan because a couple of big wins for them and we're straight up!
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Salford may continue to have financial difficulties but the team have shown they deserve their place. Without Hastings however......

1 space for automatic promotion left. And at least we'll be now in the MPG away at worst. Tomorrow is massive and we could still end up with 4 teams on 10 points at the top.
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It's going to be weird for our (alleged) Leeds Rhino's fan tomorrow night.
Wanting his side to lose against Toronto Barbarians...just so he can have an 0rg@sm on the VT if they win.
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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg
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Quote: Budgiezilla "[sizeWhere is Jean Capdouze ?[/size'"

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Clubs not paying their players is a farce, ex-Leigh players taking the club to court for their wages'"


Enlighten us, what exactly have Leigh done wrong during the above alleged process different to other relegated teams.
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Quote: mapleyther "Looking to me like a London v Toronto MPG in London in front of a bumper 3-figure crowd. What an absolute farce.'"


Would it be a wise move for both Toronto and London to field weakened teams this weekend in preparation for the MPG? Picking up key injuries with little to gain this weekend could have catastrophic consequences. With it looking like London having home advantage it would be a very close one to call.
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Quote: mapleyther "Looking to me like a London v Toronto MPG in London in front of a bumper 3-figure crowd. What an absolute farce.'"


As a fellow Leigh supporter I find that embarrassing, I would be delighted to play at London in the MPG.

Sour grapes at their sourest.
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Sadly thats the bitter underlying tone that comes out of a number of Leigh posters. Its all about the crowd. We all know London don't have great crowds and didn't in SL. If league status was based on crowds of course London wouldn't be anywhere near the top.

At the end of last season London let 2 of its better players go to rivals (Barthau and Ackers) whist bringing one player in plus promoting kids from the development squads. Its living to your means and Wardy has done a good job with what he has available.

Leigh have lost to a 14 man squad, Batley ....in recent times not forgetting missing out on the top 4 and now they are in a financial pickle but have decent crowds. Looking in the mirror sometimes isn't a bad option.
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disappointed toulouse fell at the final hurdle, when they got back to 14-10 i thought the next ten minutes were vital, after that their heads went down, salford need to thank marwan for signing hastings, lets behonest without them two they would have gone down, two losses to leeds and london showed without hastings they are poor!

cant see any other than a london v toronto mpg now, think leeds will sneak tonights game
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Quote: theredshed "Would it be a wise move for both Toronto and London to field weakened teams this weekend in preparation for the MPG? Picking up key injuries with little to gain this weekend could have catastrophic consequences. With it looking like London having home advantage it would be a very close one to call.'"


Unless there is some collusion between certain clubs to ensure that Toronto or gain promotion and / or a shock result in the remaining fixtures, London do now look to be in the box seat. Home advantage will be huge, not to mention travel etc and they could sneak their way back into the top flight.
It's going to be interesting, not least because London (being the last game of the round) have the advantage of knowing exactly what they will need to do to make 4th spot.
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Quote: wrencat1873 "Unless there is some collusion between certain clubs to ensure that Toronto or gain promotion and / or a shock result in the remaining fixtures, London do now look to be in the box seat. Home advantage will be huge, not to mention travel etc and they could sneak their way back into the top flight.
It's going to be interesting, not least because London (being the last game of the round) have the advantage of knowing exactly what they will need to do to make 4th spot.'"



London aren’t the last game of the round Hull KR v Widnes is
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If the wolfpack beat leeds I think they may as well then they could be auto promoted depending on kr v widnes
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