Comment away, I dont really mind. I agree that some of the defending was soft and that we cant read much into it. But you seem to think that in SL all defences are tip top and you need to do something amazing to score a try. You really dont. And I include Hull's defence in that.

League Leaders - St Helens

Grand Final Winners - Hull FC. Harry Sunderland Trophy - Albert Kelly.

Challenge Cup Winners - Castleford Tigers. Lance Todd Trophy - Grant Millington.



Man of Steel - Luke Gale.

Young Player of the Year - Jacob Trueman.

Top Tryscorer - Ben Barba.

Coach of the Year - Justin Holbrook.

This one hurts. Had we not gone into liquidation he would probably have been our starting half by now. And the future he has looks very bright indeed.

Yes I do. Thanks for pointing that out.

Looks like he might start the season as our first-choice 6 this year.

It’s hard to tell how this season will pan out as injuries and suspensions will inevitably play their part.



Leeds and Cas won’t perform as well as they did last season IMO, with other teams below improving.



Saints are the favourites for the top and Hull will be there or thereabouts. Wire will improve enough to make the 8 but not the 4.



See top 8 as Saints, Hull, Cas, Leeds, Wigan, Wakefield, Warrington and Hudds.



I can see Wigan/Wire gunning for the cup if the season doesn’t pan out the way they wanted in the league.

It's interesting because a lot of people kept saying last year that Leeds weren't performing well (and we arguably weren't) even though we were 2nd for a lot of it.

We've still got plenty of room for improvement performance wise from last years regular season.

Definitely. Perhaps we're due a season where we play well when it least matters and the trophies go elsewhere. As opposed to 2016 when we didn't play well at all and last year when we played as you've described.

No team had anywhere near the same pressure on them to do well last year as Leeds did after how 2016 panned out. It was all about winning games for Leeds regardless of how attractive it looked especially after the Cas hammering early doors.



No pressure on us to deliver this year could really see us back to 2015 season style.

Hope so, good if cas can keep theirs and a few others play with similar freedom too. I agree about no pressure up to a point but Myler in particular will be under scrutiny.

I don't think they'll be an issue with Myler with regards the regular season.....again McGuire was criticised during the year before coming strong for the playoffs. He was as hot and cold as Myler has been in his career. The Myler concern will come crunch SF/F time in the cup/playoffs which I don't know yet if he'll be able to produce.

i agree and that myler will be judged down the line in big games that matter

i think that he will score 20 tries during the regular season

myler has the ability to be a great player and he just needs to deliver these great performances if and when the big games come around to be judged as a comparative player of the ilk of magsy,burrow or sinny were in the big games and how they controlled them with master classes of excellence