This.
Reserve judgement on the wisdom or otherwise of this venture until midway or even the end of the season. Of course, then it will all be with the benefit of hindsight - if another team comes in to the game there's no saying that what will be "right" for them would have been what's "right" for Toronto. And we won't know what's right for Toronto until the end of the season.

In the crazy world of money & RL I just hope that they are around long enough to finish their first season, then reassess their future based on their financial ability to continue, in whatever division their league position suggests is right.

With the squad that they have, with plenty of SL experience in there, you would put your mortgage on them finishing top of the pile.
They look way too good for that division and that was before the blowout score yesterday.
I agree that the travelling and training could take it's toll on some of their players though.

Everything still comes back to what the spot is trying to achieve.

Are we aiming for a SL spread across 3 continents, with 2 French clubs and maybe 2 North american clubs or are "we" just waiting to see what happens and prepared to take another hit if things dont work out.

It's difficult for us in the UK to know exactly how serious Perez and his fellow investors are taking this.
The guy comes across really well and seems to have a vision that has been lacking in our sport for years but, long term, should we be aiming for an International Super League of working harder to try and establish full time pro leagues in France and North America.
Obviously this would take significantly longer and RL is not really known for having any patience but, where are we heading.

Let's not forget the full time Celtic Crusaders in Championship 1 ( NL2 as was ) battering all and sundry ( all on a £ 150 K salary cap ) back in 2006/7

That league was a lot tougher back then without the recent influx of sub midland clubs so this time the gulf will be more apparent , but nobodies breaking any rules so just let them get on with it and what will be will be

It's interesting to surmise what Mr Perez's intentions were back in 2014 when he made his offer to buy Leigh , was his intention to use Leigh to gain a SL place , then switch it to Toronto ? , possibly dumping Leigh back into the Championship or C1 ?

If they were his intentions it's a shame it didn't come off. Wigan is far too small to have two super league clubs, especially with Warrington, St Helens and Widnes close by, if we ever want the sport to grow. A number of union clubs have successfully relocated.

The more of your posts I read, the more I'm convinced your other half ran off with a Leyther. You seem to have a fly up your ar$e about us

He's like Jean Capdouze but, far less interesting.

As Iggy suggests , he does seem to have a flea up his backside about Leigh

He offered his opinion to which he is entitled

I have nothing against Leigh, it just doesn't make any sense having two teams from the same small area, when we have rich Canadian backers wanting to invest in our sport. Scrapping franchises was a mistake, Super League needs to become multi-national, like the Pro 12 with teams from Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Italy. Or like the Super Rugby league with teams from Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Argentina and Japan.

I agree with you in general. However I am extremely doubtful that we will get a club from Scotland. A third club from France is a better bet.

The Canadians have made their first move. We need to encourage them now, and later when Montreal becomes a reality. Licensing is the only way to really make progress in international expansion.

Completely agree , dump ALL current clubs into a Championship 2 nd tier

Set up 10 new clubs playing regionally at several different stadia ( Yorkshire playing out of McAlpine,Elland Rd,Hillsborough,Doncaster,KC ) Lancs playing out of any decent stadia ( lots more choice in Lancs ) and so on

That is true Franchising a la Super Rugby

You ok with that

So far Toronto have played 2 competitive games , one in Yorkshire and one in London , none actually in Canada , when they're into 3 figure games IN Canada they can be evaluated , to presume anything so early is madness , we've had enough of that in the past

That isnt how Super Rugby works. You can keep pretending it is and keep pretending the only two choices are P+R or a system nobody else has and nobody is suggesting but regardless of how many times you posit it, its still going to be stupid.

Rugby league has been played in Canada, they get around 6000-7000 at games. www.canadarugbyleague.com/wolver ... onial-cup/

Rugby league has been played in Canada, they get around 6000-7000 at games. www.canadarugbyleague.com/wolver ... onial-cup/

But actually it is how it started , the NZ clubs currently playing in the Mitre 10 cup supply players to their regional Super Rugby clubs

The Wellington Lions were the capitals main club , they still exist but play in the aforementioned Mitre 10 cup along with other nearby clubs that come under the ' Hurricanes ' Super Rugby area

That IS how they did it