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| Quote: Kippaxer "There's more chance of seeing Lord Lucan riding Shergar down Chiswick High St than of Quins getting the boot next week.'"
You'd be surprised. FWIW, I'd put a fiver E/W on Shergar if I were you...
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| Quote: Mr Dog "Is it really that clear cut? I'd certainly be very worried if I was a supporter or official of Cas or Salford.
1. Ground - clearly Salford ahead with their new ground under construction, Wake next with a potential B grade after proposed improvements to BV with Cas a distant 3rd (the rules had to be relaxed to allow them promotion in 200icon_cool.gif. Both Cas and Wake in the same boat with regards a new ground. Wake do have an idea when a final decision will be made whereas with Cas it really is all smoke and mirrors so far as funding is concerned.
2. Crowds - clearly Salford last (av 4350 over franchise period) with not much to choose between Cas (av 7080) and Wake (av 6210). BUT Wake have much greater potential being a city as opposed to a town and the fact that Cas' crowds are approx 20% of the town's population means they've got a pretty saturated market.
3. Junior development - Wake should be miles in front since the RFL recently announced that their programme was one others should be emulating
4. Finance - OK Wake went bust but thanks to Crusaders this doesn't automatically exclude you anymore. Cas have no wealthy backer, Salford have Mr Wilkinson and Wakey Mr Glover. Of the 3 only Wake have stated that they can afford to spend up to the cap maximum over the next 3 years
5. On field - over the 3 years of the current franchise Salford haven't made the playoffs (yet) finishing 13th and 12th in 2009 and 2010, both Wake (5th) and Cas (7th) made them in 2009, neither made them in 2010 (Wake 11th, Cas 9th). Cas look most likely to make them this year.
And but wasn't it that nice chap Mr Caisley who at the onset of SL said something along the lines of 'if small town clubs such as Castleford are still in SL in 10-15 years time we will have failed'? Maybe the decision won't be what everyone expects.'"
Don't like Cas much do you Mr Dog?
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46042.jpg [quote="Bonzo":23qz4bj5]Corrected.
Incidentally, an exclamation mark ends a sentence and does not require a full stop. The first letter of the next word begins a new sentence and should therefore be capitalised. [i:23qz4bj5]Who needs flankers[/i:23qz4bj5]' grammar was actually correct.
HTH.
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| Quote: Mr Dog "Is it really that clear cut? I'd certainly be very worried if I was a supporter or official of Cas or Salford.
1. Ground - clearly Salford ahead with their new ground under construction, Wake next with a potential B grade after proposed improvements to BV with Cas a distant 3rd (the rules had to be relaxed to allow them promotion in 200icon_cool.gif. Both Cas and Wake in the same boat with regards a new ground. Wake do have an idea when a final decision will be made whereas with Cas it really is all smoke and mirrors so far as funding is concerned.
2. Crowds - clearly Salford last (av 4350 over franchise period) with not much to choose between Cas (av 7080) and Wake (av 6210). BUT Wake have much greater potential being a city as opposed to a town and the fact that Cas' crowds are approx 20% of the town's population means they've got a pretty saturated market.
3. Junior development - Wake should be miles in front since the RFL recently announced that their programme was one others should be emulating
4. Finance - OK Wake went bust but thanks to Crusaders this doesn't automatically exclude you anymore. Cas have no wealthy backer, Salford have Mr Wilkinson and Wakey Mr Glover. Of the 3 only Wake have stated that they can afford to spend up to the cap maximum over the next 3 years
5. On field - over the 3 years of the current franchise Salford haven't made the playoffs (yet) finishing 13th and 12th in 2009 and 2010, both Wake (5th) and Cas (7th) made them in 2009, neither made them in 2010 (Wake 11th, Cas 9th). Cas look most likely to make them this year.
And but wasn't it that nice chap Mr Caisley who at the onset of SL said something along the lines of 'if small town clubs such as Castleford are still in SL in 10-15 years time we will have failed'? Maybe the decision won't be what everyone expects.'"
Who says manipulation of statistics can't give you the answer you want?
800 more on average at the gate is well over 10% more or at £20 a head £16,000 a home game more! With additional food and drink revenue that equals a salary of a youngster for an entire season for every home game!
cas are most likely to make the play offs this year? No S%@$t! What you mean is, they have almost made it and Wakefield have no chance. Look at the average finishing position over the 3 years. Cas will be an average of 8th, Salford and wakefield will be on a par with Bradford if they are lucky.
Regeneration of BV? As the old saying goes, you can't polish poo. If the Fev plan of buying a stand from Scarborough FC goes ahead you may as well move in with them.
As for the city vs town argument Tell it to Aston Villa!
Anyway, less than a week to go and this will all be over.
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| Quote: Kippaxer "Don't like Cas much do you Mr Dog?'"
Don't like Wake either (or Salford) Just seems everyone thinks it's a done deal when it might not be.
If the rumours about Peter Box turning up to Wake's meeting with Savilles is true I suspect the people over at Cas aren't as confident as their fans on here.
Whatever happens I hope the club given the heave force the RFL to publish the full reasoning behind the decision.
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46042.jpg [quote="Bonzo":23qz4bj5]Corrected.
Incidentally, an exclamation mark ends a sentence and does not require a full stop. The first letter of the next word begins a new sentence and should therefore be capitalised. [i:23qz4bj5]Who needs flankers[/i:23qz4bj5]' grammar was actually correct.
HTH.
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| Quote: Dick Jones "Are we all ready to hear the RFL try and justify their annoucement, and then change the rules for the next lot of franchises, just so that the teams they want only can apply
"No team with ford in their name can apply for a licence in 2015 unless they also have a Brad"
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| Quote: Mr Dog "Whatever happens I hope the club given the heave force the RFL to publish the full reasoning behind the decision.'"
You mean like they did with the last lot of franchise applications?
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| Quote: Conorgiantsfan "...we've been there, done that, won every game and bought the NFP grand final t-shirt, albeit not 3 years.
Every game except for getting thrashed by Doncaster in the challenge cup.
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| London & Crusaders should go, bring nothing to the game and i don't care how many kids play RL in schools they don't go watching!
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50156_1266757028.jpg [b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5]
Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg |
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| Quote: Craig_UK "London & Crusaders should go, bring nothing to the game and i don't care how many kids play RL in schools they don't go watching!'"
You know that.
I know that.
The RFL know that.
Sadly it won't happen though.
According to most people the current total of kids playing RL in London schools stands at just over 65 million.
Give or take a few million of course.
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| Quote: PHIPPS "You know that.
I know that.
The RFL know that.
Sadly it won't happen though.
According to most people the current total of kids playing RL in London schools stands at just over 65 million.
Give or take a few million of course.
Almost our away support levels then
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| who would SL teams prefer to have in?
Halifax , london ,or crusaders ?
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| Quote: rupert bear "Every game except for getting thrashed by Doncaster in the challenge cup.'"
True that. We got owned, I went.
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50156_1266757028.jpg [b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5]
Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg |
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| Quote: SIMMSFAXTEDDY "who would SL teams prefer to have in?
Halifax , london ,or crusaders ?'"
None of the above.
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| Get Wakefield out.
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