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Quote: BalearicHullFan "Nope. Not at modern stadiums.'"


Come on. we are waiting for the cutting edge way of counting an attendance...

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Quote: Big Graeme "Come on. we are waiting for the cutting edge way of counting an attendance...'"


And we will wait a good while icon_biggrin.gif

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ok really modern stadiums have computerised counters which lock each gate when its allocation has gone, there results in total are sent to a central database for crowd control reasons and official figures.

however......super league attendance figures, god knows, i heard at one point these kids tickets that are a tenner was so each club could include each one in every away gane
so for example if wakey has sold 300 its 300 every time we play away regardless of whether they go.

strangley if thats true its a very easy way of hitting the 8000 target.

and also if kids get freebies to be part of entertainment etc do they count?

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Quote: chapster "ok really modern stadiums have computerised counters which lock each gate when its allocation has gone, there results in total are sent to a central database for crowd control reasons and official figures.

however......super league attendance figures, god knows, i heard at one point these kids tickets that are a tenner was so each club could include each one in every away gane
so for example if wakey has sold 300 its 300 every time we play away regardless of whether they go.

strangley if thats true its a very easy way of hitting the 8000 target.

and also if kids get freebies to be part of entertainment etc do they count
?'"


Thats just madness, running a business and declaring to the taxman a higher income than you actually have?? icon_eek.gif

And freebies do count its people through the door, not what they paid that counts.

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Quote: Saint Simon "Thats just madness, running a business and declaring to the taxman a higher income than you actually have??
no your missing the point
income has nothing to do with attendances, its a balance sheet item on the clubs accounts. far easier to fiddle the kids entry to parent than the attnedance, especially if you used shared gates.

i am merely asking what the real criteria for the super league franchise 8000 attendance target includes / excludes.

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Quote: chapster "
so for example if wakey has sold 300 its 300 every time we play away regardless of whether they go.'"


No they don't, attendance must be an accurate figure of who is in the ground, this is a H&S requirement.

Quote: chapster "and also if kids get freebies to be part of entertainment etc do they count?'"


Yes.

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Quote: Big Graeme "No they don't, attendance must be an accurate figure of who is in the ground, this is a H&S requirement.

not the point again.
are you aware of the difference between the attendance and the official attendance?

one, the attendance, you are correct is for h+s and is bums on seats and one may be adjusted, im just not sure by who .

ie its the diffenernce between paid attendees and officially sold tickets

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That might be why you get different figures announced for the same game, never knew that.

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Quote: Saint Simon "Thats just madness, running a business and declaring to the taxman a higher income than you actually have?? icon_eek.gif

And freebies do count its people through the door, not what they paid that counts.'"


ok a kid and a parent goes through same turnstile pays 18 poundS plus say 6 pounds

= 24 quid
nice and easy

two parents and one kid - 42 pounds
one parent and 2 kids - 30 pounds


no tickets issued, no audit trail so one puts through two parents and one child as one parent and two children, the beuty of a shared turnstile
and far greater percentage than fiddling the attendance

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Quote: chapster "
Quote: chapster "Thats just madness, running a business and declaring to the taxman a higher income than you actually have?? icon_lol.gif
You're making this sh#t up as you go along, aren't you!?! icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Big Graeme "No they don't, attendance must be an accurate figure of who is in the ground, this is a H&S requirement.
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However, whenever a SL match is a sell out, the announced attendance is usually given as the ground capacity - which is almost impossible, given some season ticket holders are surely going to be on holiday or at work or otherwise unable to attend.

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Quote: SEB "However, whenever a SL match is a sell out, the announced attendance is usually given as the ground capacity - which is almost impossible, given some season ticket holders are surely going to be on holiday or at work or otherwise unable to attend.'"


Not seen too many sell out matches to judge mate.

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Quote: Big Graeme "Not seen too many sell out matches to judge mate.'"


Been a few Hull FC - KR, Wigan/Saints, Wire/Saints as examples.

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