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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"from the BBC
Seriuosly...if RBS agree to this they will leave themselves open to every single bad debt they ever call in being overturned and more time given.....'"
Maybe that's why they asked the day before a bank holiday which itself is the day before Hood has to make a decision.
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| Bradford MP and former Sports Minister Gerry Sutcliffe added: "Bradford has had a rugby league club in various guises since the formation of the Northern Union was formed. We cannot let it die with the stroke of a pen."
Yes but Bradford Northern (1964) Ltd has only been around since, at a guess, 1964 and if it goes tits up there's not a shadow of a doubt that a new club will replace it.
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"Alas roofs, it is only Bradford who have an account there.
BTW......as I have mentioned, if London had 1,000 travelling fans, then 2007-2011 would have seen 50k in extra revenue for your club....how much did you pi55 away on Mason.
Your owner is bitching like whiny schoolgirl again, but in reality, expansion clubs deliver the SKY TV deal at the expense of about 20k a year......would you be happy to lose the million + so as to welcome 500 Halifax fans to the caravan park once a year to watch amateur players with a couple of semi-pro's thrown in and maybe a pair of 35yrs old aussie backpackers?
Bradford as a business got themselves into this mess and to BEG the RL community for help to stop them doing what others have had to do is sickening IMO. They shoud accept their medicine and rebuild...it's painful, but in the end it will build a stronger club. If the RL community get them a stay of execution, who will thay ask next time...or who will the next club turn to?
This situation is simply enforcing the belief in the majority of the country that RL is a northern hobby......constant reference to the RL Community........they may as well post pictures of flat cap wearing whippet fanciers
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Oh this stupid thing about Sky handing over cash simply because of expansion clubs - how the hell does 2000 fans in a 15000 stadium look good on Sky TV? It actually makes both SL and Sky look terrible. SL because it makes it look to the rest of the country like SL is watched by one man and his dog, and it looks bad on Sky because people tuning in to Sky Sports for the first time will think they show Mickey Mouse sports / leagues which no-one is interested in attending. It's bad, bad, bad - out with the Fulcrubronquins Experiment I say. 
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"Bradford as a business got themselves into this mess and to BEG the RL community for help to stop them doing what others have had to do is sickening IMO. They shoud accept their medicine and rebuild...it's painful, but in the end it will build a stronger club. If the RL community get them a stay of execution, who will thay ask next time...or who will the next club turn to?'"
That's exactly the way I see it.
So pervasive has the wave of vomit-inducing hyperbole about saving the Bulls become, that when Brian Carney voiced one dissenting opinion on TV the other night, Bradford fans respond by calling for a lynching; and this is despite the overwhelming majority of pundits, administrators and former players who have turned their plight into something akin to Children in Need.
Quite frankly, the whole situation has become an embarassment.
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| Quote Steve Fox="Steve Fox"Yes but Bradford Northern (1964) Ltd has only been around since, at a guess, 1964 and if it goes tits up there's not a shadow of a doubt that a new club will replace it.'"
This is my frustration. Bradford Northern (1964) Ltd may disappear, but tell me a new company won't replace that and I won't believe you.
(Does that mean Bradford Bulls can take no claim on any honours won by the club pre-1964 as that is not the same thing, going by the current logic.)
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"Alas roofs, it is only Bradford who have an account there.
BTW......as I have mentioned, if London had 1,000 travelling fans, then 2007-2011 would have seen 50k in extra revenue for your club....how much did you pi55 away on Mason.
Your owner is bitching like whiny schoolgirl again, but in reality, expansion clubs deliver the SKY TV deal at the expense of about 20k a year......would you be happy to lose the million + so as to welcome 500 Halifax fans to the caravan park once a year to watch amateur players with a couple of semi-pro's thrown in and maybe a pair of 35yrs old aussie backpackers?
Bradford as a business got themselves into this mess and to BEG the RL community for help to stop them doing what others have had to do is sickening IMO. They shoud accept their medicine and rebuild...it's painful, but in the end it will build a stronger club. If the RL community get them a stay of execution, who will thay ask next time...or who will the next club turn to?
This situation is simply enforcing the belief in the majority of the country that RL is a northern hobby......constant reference to the RL Community........they may as well post pictures of flat cap wearing whippet fanciers
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Would you prefer us to dress as Pearly Kings and chew jellied eels? There would be somewhat more than 500 Halifax fans but even that would be 10 times what London bring to games.
Why not move to the Earls Court area next? At least you should find enough ex-pat Aussies around there who are at least familiar with the game of RL (if you can extract them from the pubs that is).
Lets face it. You've had 32 years now and Londoners still aren't interested.
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"from the BBC
Seriuosly...if RBS agree to this they will leave themselves open to every single bad debt they ever call in being overturned and more time given.....
Only 1,800 at the stoop tonight and we still don't have any debt.....'"
Its been a long time since i have been on here, but didnt you state you were never coming back on here again once upon a time 
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| Quote Fax Machine="Fax Machine"Would you prefer us to dress as Pearly Kings and chew jellied eels? There would be somewhat more than 500 Halifax fans but even that would be 10 times what London bring to games.
Why not move to the Earls Court area next? At least you should find enough ex-pat Aussies around there who are at least familiar with the game of RL (if you can extract them from the pubs that is).
Lets face it. You've had 32 years now and Londoners still aren't interested.'"
WHOOOOOOSH............
Sky give money to the RFL of which about 1.3 million goes to each SL club a year. 2 games against Catalans and London normally attract between 500 and 1000 less fans....., but let's give you 1,500. At a tenner each, that's 30,000 a year less in gate revenue in exchange for 1.3 million....even you can't be that stupid
BTW.....What was the seasons average attendance for Halifax when they were last in Superleague? I'll give you a clue....it was nothing to write home about. 
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| so how much of that 1.3mill do yo consider attributable to having a London team in SL? Reality is the Broncos do not have a fanbase and therefore Sky do not sell subscriptions to fans who want to watch the Broncos play RL. Does someone in Kent decide to subscribe to Sky and watch SL because there is a team in it called London Broncos? I very much doubt it.
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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"so how much of that 1.3mill do yo consider attributable to having a London team in SL? Reality is the Broncos do not have a fanbase and therefore Sky do not sell subscriptions to fans who want to watch the Broncos play RL. Does someone in Kent decide to subscribe to Sky and watch SL because there is a team in it called London Broncos? I very much doubt it.'"
Anyone who believes that SKY put money into SL to seel dishes is off their rocker and f I am honest, I expected better from you JB.
Advertising revenue is where they get a ROI and advertisers aren't interested in spending hundreds of thousands on "slots" without the perception of reach in London. National advertising rates are 4 times those charged got "regional"....you do the maths.
When the NRL give perth a spot, it will have little to do with Fox selling subscription and a lot to do with the 2.4 million population in Western Australia being "opened up" for national advertisers.
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"WHOOOOOOSH............
Sky give money to the RFL of which about 1.3 million goes to each SL club a year. 2 games against Catalans and London normally attract between 500 and 1000 less fans....., but let's give you 1,500. At a tenner each, that's 30,000 a year less in gate revenue in exchange for 1.3 million....even you can't be that stupid
BTW.....What was the seasons average attendance for Halifax when they were last in Superleague? I'll give you a clue....it was nothing to write home about.
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Throughout all the years Fax were in SL? Around 5,500 to 6,000 IIRC, or did you just want to quote the last (2003) season to suit your agenda?
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"Anyone who believes that SKY put money into SL to seel dishes is off their rocker and f I am honest, I expected better from you JB.
Advertising revenue is where they get a ROI and advertisers aren't interested in spending hundreds of thousands on "slots" without the perception of reach in London. National advertising rates are 4 times those charged got "regional"....you do the maths.
When the NRL give perth a spot, it will have little to do with Fox selling subscription and a lot to do with the 2.4 million population in Western Australia being "opened up" for national advertisers.'"
So, less than 2,000 go to the games but, because London have a team, countless thousands tune into Sky Sports to watch and absorb the advertising
That's not maths it's some kind of highly illogical conjecture.
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