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The Ablett incident is absolutely ridiculous, Ablett has deliberately kicked out toward the head of a player AND connected. It's deliberate in the sense of kicking out, his foot doesn't just accidentally swing toward the players head. It his Ablett's responsibility alone not to put another player in a situation of endangerment which his act clearly does and is no less than a shoulder charge to the head.
It should have been a straight red and a{EDIT is what I meant}, how the officials can't see him swinging his foot in Monaghan's direction is beyond belief, that Cummings is saying it isn't within the remit of the VR to check it is , they've done it at CC games in the past (Raynor got sent off on the back of a VR looking at him tw'tting Rat boy so there is precedence)
Given a lazy flailing slap got Crookes of Hull sent off recently that this doesn't is another indictment of how micturate poor the officiating is...

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "The Ablett incident is absolutely ridiculous, Ablett has deliberately kicked out toward the head of a player AND connected. It's deliberate in the sense of kicking out, his foot doesn't just accidentally swing toward the players head. It his Ablett's responsibility alone not to put another player in a situation of endangerment which his act clearly does and is no less than a shoulder charge to the head.
It should have been a straight red and a penalty try, how the officials can't see him swinging his foot in Monaghan's direction is beyond belief, that Cummings is saying it isn't within the remit of the VR to check it is rubbish, they've done it at CC games in the past (Raynor got sent off on the back of a VR looking at him tw'tting Rat boy so there is precedence)
Given a lazy flailing slap got Crookes of Hull sent off recently that this doesn't is another indictment of how micturate poor the officiating is...'"

It shouldn't have been a penalty try, the try was still scored. It should've been an 8 point try.
As for how the officials can't see it? Watch it again in full speed, it's incredibly difficult to see what happened.
Cummings didn't say that and there isn't precedence. Cummings said the VR can't check without being asked to by the on-field ref.
The Raynor/Tomkins incident was referred to the VR by the on-field ref.

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Yeah, I meant 8 point try.
Yes Cummings did, he specifically said that they are not allowed to ask the VR on stuff like that and yes there has been decisions made for foul play using the VR, how much simpler could it be.

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Yeah, I meant 8 point try.
Yes Cummings did, he specifically said that they are not allowed to ask the VR on stuff like that and yes there has been decisions made for foul play using the VR, how much simpler could it be.'"

No he didn't. Cummings said the on-field would have to ask the VR for help, just like Thaler did in the Hudds v Wigan game for the Brough kick to touch.
There isn't a precedent of the VR making a decision on foul play (or anything else for that matter) without being asked first by the on-field ref. Not since the Tansey incident at Cardiff anyway.

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Quote: tigertot "For me there was potentially a much worse incident in the Hudds Wigan game, if we are getting super sensitive about such things. As Wardle scores his first try a Wigan player (I think Bateman) comes in with both knees. As with Ablett I will give him the benefit of the doubt, that he was trying to get part of his body under the ball, but the damage could have been much worse if he had connected.'"

I noticed that as well. I really don't like Bateman.

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Quote: tigertot "For me there was potentially a much worse incident in the Hudds Wigan game, if we are getting super sensitive about such things. As Wardle scores his first try a Wigan player (I think Bateman) comes in with both knees. As with Ablett I will give him the benefit of the doubt, that he was trying to get part of his body under the ball, but the damage could have been much worse if he had connected.'"

I agree that that's what Ablett was trying to do, but he was reckless and probably deserves a 1 match ban for that reason.
Like you say though there are plenty of other incidents like in the Hudds v Wigan game and to be honest I'm suprised we haven't had more players injured from it.

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I cannot remebertthe last 8 point try i saw.

Once a few are given you will find less incidents like this

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Quote: Durham Giant "I cannot remebertthe last 8 point try i saw.

Once a few are given you will find less incidents like this'"

Only ones in my mind of late are Leigh v Catalans 2011 and Bradford v Saints 2012, for a similar kick to the head from Foster.

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Quote: Him "I agree that that's what Ablett was trying to do, but he was reckless and probably deserves a 1 match ban for that reason.
Like you say though there are plenty of other incidents like in the Hudds v Wigan game and to be honest I'm suprised we haven't had more players injured from it.'"


It was a mistake, not intentional or malicious. It should have been an 8 pointer but never a game ban IMO. You could tell be the reaction of the Wire players that they saw little in it. The fact it wasn't called as an 8 pointer might count against Ablett however.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "I know you're joking but the Leeds fans saying odem is poop stirring.

It was picked up in the refs mic, which I presume the match commissioner is wired in to and it's recorded (FOR training purposes).

Also if you watch the full segment back, prior to this he throws a full bossy fit at the ref when he originally blows for the penalty. I think he's in a bit of a sticky situation.

And if he's found guilty, it's 4-8 matches he could cop'"


Isn't he also in the naughty corner with Leeds owing to the off season/ World Cup incidents? There was talk of him leaving Leeds after that, be interesting to see if the club follows through with their threats...

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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Isn't he also in the naughty corner with Leeds owing to the off season/ World Cup incidents? There was talk of him leaving Leeds after that, be interesting to see if the club follows through with their threats...'"

It wasn't the club threatening to sack Hardaker at all. It was Hardaker apparently not too happy with his punishment from Leeds so didn't sign an extended contract.

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i think approaching it in terms of punishment might be a mistake. I would much rather Hardaker (if correct) learned why it was wrong, the effects it has and work to improve the situation than an X match ban.

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