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| Quote: Roy Haggerty "Because it would open up the field to club coaches. We need to be honest
What about bias and conflict of interest?
We need to keep it full time, putting it back to part time is a step backward.
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| Quote: christopher "I'm actually thinking it's not a bad idea to keep him on, I think we need to keep the full time thing going, you can criticise his selections all you want but the whole set up had moved massively IMO, the train on squad, the regular meet ups, the knights games are all a massive step forward.
People forget the dross that was served up in 2008 that was embarrassing and the coach was a very well respected coach who never got as much stick as SM who has done a far better job IMO'"
Why would any of that have to change if McNamara was replaced
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| Quote: Roy Haggerty "Because it would open up the field to club coaches. We need to be honest
What makes you think any top class coaches would want to coach england?
Sure, If wayne bennet said he would do it, then what the hell, make it part time.
But that aint happening.
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| Quote: christopher "What about bias and conflict of interest?
We need to keep it full time, putting it back to part time is a step backward.'"
Exactly.
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Why would any of that have to change if McNamara was replaced
It wouldn't as long as it's full time, but you have to credit SM for implementing these things in the first place.
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| Quote: christopher "What about bias and conflict of interest?
We need to keep it full time, putting it back to part time is a step backward.'"
Keeping a crap coach in place is TWO steps backward.
Can you show me one bit of evidence that McNamara is a good coach .
Bradford fans were delighted when he left them. Not good enough for Bradford not good enough for England.
( oh yes i forgot he took England to a world cup semi final ).
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Keeping a crap coach in place is TWO steps backward.
Can you show me one bit of evidence that McNamara is a good coach .
Bradford fans were delighted when he left them. Not good enough for Bradford not good enough for England.
( oh yes i forgot he took England to a world cup semi final ).'"
Do you think Tony Smith is a good coach? What about Brian Noble?
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Keeping a crap coach in place is TWO steps backward.
Can you show me one bit of evidence that McNamara is a good coach .
Bradford fans were delighted when he left them. Not good enough for Bradford not good enough for England.
( oh yes i forgot he took England to a world cup semi final ).'"
do you think paul anderson is a good coach?
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| Was Sinfield in great form before the tournament? O'Loughlin? Widdopp? You can't pick and choose the form argument - either he picks on form alone, in which case neither halfback should have been in the team today (Widdopp not even in the squad), or he goes for what he considers the best team regardless of form.
Brough's non-selection is entirely down to him, so if you want to have a go at anybody for his non-selection, pick on him first, not McNamara. If Brough were not selected and then chose Scotland it would be different, but it was his choice.
With respect to the discipline, I don't remember it being an issue under McNamara before. In any event its like blaming the police for not stopping street violence. The people responsible were the players themselves, nobody else. Hardaker and Hock (and if correct that Chase was booted from the squad him too) were the ones who broke rules. Not McNamara. They are the ones who let themselves, their teammates and the fans down. Not McNamara.
I agree there are issues with England's structure in both attack and defence, but the main problem is lack of genuine quality in all positions and the team being unable to play with full intensity for 80 minutes. That's partly the gap between SL and NRL. Changing coaches can't fix that.
I'm not sure McNamara is the best coach, but if you'd said a 28-20 loss to Australia and a last-minute loss to NZ were the results of our big games against them before the tournament, I'd have taken that any time. England are always going to struggle to get 17 players of real quality and experience compared to Aus and NZ. Saying that narrowly failing to beat them suggests incompetent coaching is ridiculous.
What I do think would help England is getting someone like Wayne Bennett to help at the next tournament. Not in team selection or coaching, but just as for NZ at the last world Cup helping players to focus and believe in themselves. That's certainly a problem for them against Australia, if not NZ.
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "do you think paul anderson is a good coach?'"
and in respect of Smith and Nobby
Yes they have shown a lot of ability and gained success.
Anderson has a long way to get near the record of the other two and he may have to leave the Giants to get there.
And despite any comments you wish to throw out about their lack of International success i reckon that with the same number of Aussie based English players, the same resources as McNamara has had the same amount of preparation time I reckon all three would have done a better job in this WC.
( i would even throw in Daryl Powell as a good option).
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| I saw nothing today that suggested a poorly coached side. What I saw today was years of hard work and preparation undone by a couple of silly errors and a few bits of bad luck. McNamara isn't a wonder-coach but he deserves a lot better than some of the rubbish that gets posted on here.
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| Quote: Durham Giant "
And despite any comments you wish to throw out about their lack of International success i reckon that with the same number of Aussie based English players, the same resources as McNamara has had the same amount of preparation time I reckon all three would have done a better job in this WC.
( i would even throw in Daryl Powell as a good option).'"
You're clueless. I'm fed up of reading your drivel so I'm just gonna add you to my foe list.
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "You're clueless. I'm fed up of reading your drivel so I'm just gonna add you to my foe list.'"
Do you do that with everyone that you cannot defeat in an arguement.
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| I have no inter club bias whatsoever and only read on here people's opinions of him as a coach.
It's hard to define a good coach. But we fans will only ever base it on the results as we are not being coached by him.
If McNamara was involved with today's performance then he can take some merit for what was being forecast by all the doomsayers as a catastrophic event coming our way. Despite our loss.
I'd say, keep him a bit longer.
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| Mcnamara put some decent structures in place but his fate was sealed the moment he started to try and cover stuff up. That and the fact he left it until the last game to pick Widdop. Absolute lunacy...
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