Heighington's finished imo.

And Atkins is better than Reed.

thank you been saying all season reed is looking average this year and i put widdop as a 6.

also cant believe i am the only one to put luke burgess in he has been immense this year i would go as far as saying he has been better than sam

Atkins is great at club level but looks awful whenever he plays for England, Including the exiles game last week.

Luke's been more consistent but he makes stupid mistakes now and again.

A fit Sam Burgess would get in any side.

The 2013 world cup might be a year too early for George but he looks like he could be some player.

Who knows how players will develop over the next year. 4 or 5 guys who havn't even been considered might have storming seasons. Too early to pick an accurate squad.

That would be brilliant.

25 man squad for me would be:

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Ryan Hall
3. Jack Reed
4. Ryan Atkins
5. Tom Briscoe
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Jonny Lomax
8. James Graham (c)
9. James Roby
10. Sam Burgess
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Gareth Hock
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Luke Burgess
15. Eorl Crabtree
16. Ben Westwood
17. Jon Wilkin

18. Josh Charnley
19. Kallum Watkins
20. Lee Mossop
21. LMS
22. Chris Hill
23. JJB
24. Michael McIlorum
25. Danny Brough/Matty Smith

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Reed
4. Atkins
5. Hall
6. Widdop
7. Brough
8. Sam Burgess
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Ellis
12. Westwood
13. O'Loughlin

14. Crabtree
15. Mossop
16. Hock
17. Robinson

18. Ratchford
19. Cudjoe/Broughton
20. Goulding
21. Watkins
22. Briscoe
23. Chase
24. Lomax
25. Carvell
26. McIlorum
27. Hill
28. Tickle
29. Jones-Buchanon
30. Sinfield
31. Patrick
32. Luke Burgess
33. Farrell
34. Burrow

At the moment.

1 Tomkins
2 Charnley
3 Reed
4 Watkins
5 Charnley
6 Widdop
7 Brough
8 Graham
9 Roby
10 S.Burgess
11 Ellis
12 Hock
13 O'Loughin
S L.Burgess
S Mossop
S Robinson
S Morley

R Atkins
R Briscoe
R Chase
R Westwood
R Crabtree
R Burrow
R Tickle
R Hill

Tomkins
Charnley
Reed
Atkins
Hall
Widdop/Lomax
Brough/Lomax
Mossop
McIlorum
Burgess
Ellis
Westwood
Lockers

Hock - IMPACT
Graham - IMPACT
Roby - IMPACT
Crabtree - IMPACT

I would love that every 4/5 years the same as union do, I would add the rider that players would only be chosen from players who qualify by playing for the home nations, that would allow for players who opt for Scotland Ireland & Wales instead of England getting the lions share, I would also consider the French players to be included.

Reed has been in good form from what I've seen and he proved himself to be pretty handy for England last time out. I'd pick him over Atkins, however I'd probably still have him in the squad.

Tomkins
Charney
Watkins
Reed
Hall
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Mossop
Ellis
Westwood
Burgess

Burrow
L Burgess
Hock
Crabtree

Sinfield
Hill
Atkins
Briscoe
Carvell
Patrick
LMS
Ablett

Lifted straight off the other thread, heres my potential England World Cup squad:


1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Jack Reed
4. Ryan Atkins
5. Ryan Hall
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Danny Brough
8. Adrian Morley
9. James Roby ©
10. James Graham
11. Gareth Hock
12. Gareth Ellis
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Jonny Lomax (impact)
15. Kevin Sinfield (utility)
16. Lee Mossop
17. Sam Burgess

Squad members.

18. Tom Briscoe (wing cover)
19. Leroy Cudjoe (Centre cover)
20. Mike Mcllorum (hooker cover)
21. Rob Burrow (hooker/halves cover)
22. Jon Wilkin (utility)
23. Ben Westwood (forward cover)
24. Eorl Crabtree
25. Garreth Carvell

A good mix of youth, experience, with both specialist and utility value there I think.
I don't agree with Brough or Mcllorum playing for England, but they are the rules so ho hum.
Lomax, Mossop & Mcllorum will be a year older and wiser too.
Morley would be great to have around camp even though he wouldn't feature in every game.

Hopefully players like Stefan Ratchford, Kallum Watkins and the other three Burgess boys will have a great 2013 and will be making strong cases for a test shirt too

Interesting tactic, starting with just 12 players. We should, at least, win the sympathy vote.

I assume you would go with Roby at hooker.