George has played well so far but I think he is behind Charnley, Briscoe and BJB at the moment for the 'other' wingers spot. Reed formed a good partnership with Hall in the 4Nations and played well throughout. Theres nothing about Cudjoe that would scare Australia. However he is very good Super League player. Reed and Watkins are the best two centres at the moment for me with Atkins 3rd and cudjoe 4th. The World Cup was almost 4 years ago so how Robinson played in it then is irrelevant. Crabtree is a good player and could well force his way into the World Cup side. But currently is behind Graham, Morley and JP in the pecking order and Burgess depending on where he plays. I havnt seen enough of Eden to comment.

Just because your opinion is different to his. Doesnt make you right. Everything on here is all about opinions and reasoned arguments.

Or you could read my post. Or the thoughts i had on team selection

Hardly

Since neither of you has read my post, or the ideas I had for the team selection, or the posts I was responding to.

Tomkins
Hall
Watkins
Atkins
Charnley
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
Peacock
Ellis
Burgess
Sinfield

Morley
Westwood
Crabtree
Houghton

Without NRL players
Tomkins
Charnley
Atkins
Watkins
Hall
Sinfield
Brough
Mossop
Roby
Morley
Westwood
Hock
O’Loughlin

Morley
Burrow
Patrick
Peacock

With NRL players
Tomkins
Charnley
Reed
Watkins
Hall
Widdop
Brough
Burgess
Roby
Graham
Ellis
Westwood
O'Loughlin

Mossop
Morley
Burrow
Hock

Tompkins
Hall
Watkins
Bridge
Charnley
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
Burgess
Ellis
Westwood
O Loughlin

Houghton
Mossop
Patrick
Hock

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Ryan Hall
3. Jack Reed
4. Kallum Watkins
5. Josh Charnley
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Danny Brough
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Sam Burgess
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Ben Westwood
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Gareth Hock
15. Rob Burrow
16. Jamie Peacock
17. Lee Mossop

bang on for me.

People really underestimate Reed. One of the form centres in the NRL last year, and doing pretty well on his less-favoured left side this year (see the try he set up vs the Cowboys for a GREAT centre's pass). What he does is make the most basic centre task - setting up his winger - look easy, which I think is why people underrate him. Half the 'best' British centres I've seen may as well play with nobody outside them, as they seem to only pass as a last resort. That's why I like Watkins, and am yet to be convinced by Hardaker (who has time to learn, before anybody starts whining).

In total, so long as Tomkins is fit, we have the best 1-5 options available probably since the RU well dried up. That is something we should all be pleased about.

Our forward stock looks OK, but I'd be sorely tempted to move away from Morley and Peacock today as I have real doubts that they'll be up to scratch after almost another two seasons when the world Cup starts.

The glaring gap in the team is halfback. We desperately need the likes of Widdopp and Brough to step up a level. Otherwise the rest of the team has no chance against Australia.

After watching Lynch at his first few games at Hull, I have no idea how this guy hasn't had an England call up before.

I've always liked Andy Lynch.

What's the Willie Manu situation? Is he English?

Yes he qualifies. He was in the train on squad a year or so ago.

I wouldnt pick him tbh because I dont agree with it, but having picked Chase im surprised Mcnamara didnt go for him too. He is a brilliant player and a match winner.

(Minus exiles players)

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Atkins
5. Hall
6. Good Question
7. Brough
8. Morley/Peacock
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Westwood
12. Ellis
13. O'Loughlin

14. Mossop/Patrick
15. Burgess
16. Hock
17. Burrow/Robinson (same role)

Cudjoe and Reed close calls for me, but really impressed by the (W)Atkins' so far this year. Not sure why so many people seem to be putting Hall (a left winger) on the right and Charnley (a right winger) on the left... either that or swappping centres. Care to enlighten me?

widdop has been very very quite for the last 14months but i dont know if thats because cooper cronk has stepped up massively and everything runs through him at melbourne but he wouldnt be in my sqaud right now. people can forget about atkins and cudjoe getting in the sqaud as reed has that wrapped up till he retires, qaulity player and watkins will be the other. the other problem is graham and burgess both of them have become 80min players and you cant have no prop rotation so do you play burgess in 2nd row? if anything the england pack will live up to previous expectations. and yes george has been in good form for hudds but he isnt going to be picked over charnley or briscoe. peacock should do the best thing and pass on selections or he is just personally being selfish he is still a good superleague player but doesnt have the speed.

I'd like to be principled about it, but our drought of victories at international level has knocked it out of me. Manu is awesome and can trouble any defence. We don't have many player like that.