I suggest you view some stats then.

O'Loughlin > Ellis

=#8000FFWhich one was voted world player of the year in their position 2 years running? who had the balls to go play in the NRL? who is regularly picked for GB/England?

There's no competition, Ellis is a far superior player to O'Loughlin, and not to mention, for the 2nd time in this thread, they play different positions.

O'Loughlins usually injured come international time.
He was the best forward in the 07 series imo

I wish people would drop the club bias when looking at players ability. Few on here seem able to do it as is illustrated on this and other threads. Ellis and Thaiday IMO are the best second rowers in the world. Along with Burgess would probably make the best back row in the world. Shaun O aint bad but there are aussies that are better. Dont mean that Sean could not make it in the NRL.

Don't forget Watmough and Gallen, if your all talknig about worlds top back rowers.

I know, but it hurts some for players from their team not to be mentioned.

I dont think many are being biased.
The rest of the post is pretty spot on but I said I don't think there's any team in the world with THREE backrowers better so he'd go alright anywhere

There is plenty of bias on this and the england squad thread. A wigan fan on this one is certain Sean O is the best back rower in the World!! Plenty of bias on the England squad thread too. A lot coming from Leeds supporters who think their players are unrivalled. When talking about the best of whatever on here too many see club colours and everything else goes out of the window.

he was played in the 2nd row for a majority of that series was'nt he?

ellis has handled the 2nd year syndrome well

the only thing i dont get is when he is asked if hes enjoying the game he replies "im enjoying my roogby"

WTF is he on about?

Them yorkshire folk eh Dally