No i'm not I was agreeing with tigersteve about the product on the pitch if you must know


Oh and by the way....it's ILLUSION

We didn't, although we might have done had we met them in the cup, qualifying semi and the GF.

Is the NRL really a realistic quality comparator for SL? It'd be nice, but it is a long way off. We should just enjoy what we have - it is entertaining enough for me. I'd accept further reduction in quality to expand the game. Intra-league competition is what makes for quality entertainment to a large extent IMO.

If you want a high quality competition I would do the following:

Reduce the competition to 10 sides
Play each other 3 times with the home/away of the third fixture alternating each year
Top 4 play off
No Edinburgh/Cardiff
Top 8 clubs coming into the CC at the qtr final stage - the bottom 2 the previous round and drawn to play the winners from the previous round - therefore max 3 additional fixtures
Max 3 non GB qualified players in any squad
Salary cap increase in line with inflation

This way you get higher quality games on a more regular basis

My 10
Leeds
Saints
Wigan
Warrington
Hull
Hull KR
Castleford
Catalans
Bradford
Wakefield

or conversely why do you? give me the willows over JJB every day of the week, i accept that belle vue without a roof is not ideal for the elements and atmosphere, but as an away fan at salford i am more than happy

Erm facilities, family friendliness for starters!

Also:
- fans were bored with watching the derby games 3 times nevermind playing every club in the league 3 times
- how does the top 4 playoff work so that the team finishing first gets a major advantage
- putting the overseas quota down to 3 straight away will not improve standards
- where will the money come from to make up for no Edinburgh weekend
- and there are quite a few clubs who cant spend the full cap at the moment, nevermind the full cap plus inflation every year.

Spot on.

What a load of tosh.
14 teams will be fine, ones that aren't better run can get out.
Whoever can't afford to run can be replaced by Widnes, they'll work, whoever after that Barrow/Toulouse.
If you're losing money then trim your outgoings, I fail to see how this is difficult.

No one seems to be willing to give the game time.

There are no quick fixes, retreating to the heartlands won't bring new fans or more money. Neither will ruthless expansion which leaves out clubs with great potential.

The RFL needs to bring the game consistency at all levels. Get the fixture lists sorted for lower leagues. Give teams time to get financially viable and grow. No point in wasting what's been done with SL.

Maybe everyone should stop complaining and just enjoy the product on show. Of course that's not gointo happen is it.

wonder what a 12 team SL might look like in 2015.
paris
cats
toulouse
wrexham
scorpions
quinns
wigan
saint
wire
bulls
hull
leeds
it could be very interesting for 3 of the northern clubs if the RFL have a look at glasgow,edinburgh & dublin

does not look that super does it ?

hope you are right, bulls, saints and leeds can be replaced by dublin edinburgh and glasgow due to their old style stadia, then we can all wave good riddance to SL and get on with playing RL

Celtic will be merged with Widnes once the league reverts to 12 clubs. Heard from a reliable source.