Basically we just don't have the depth to be able to cope with missing Eastmond, Morley, Peacock and too a lesser extent McGuire.

But that would still leave without someone who can kick the ball......................

He actually tackled the opposition players. That puts him in front of a few straight away.

I wonder who will ref that game,It's got to be a NZ ref hopefully.

Shane Warne will probably be reffing

Why?? Surely you can't say Brown was any good which bits don't you agree with

thx

I smiled at the diplomatic comment from Peacock along the lines of 'we have never got anything off that ref', is he the new Hollywood??

NZ looked rattled for a spell, its a shame we didnt ask the questions earlier and its a real shame the decision for the try went against us.

We can get better, and I really fancy us next week.

What I do regret is that the format is not 2 games as in the old tri nations

Cheer up lads. We've only got the Aussies next week. Am I correct in saying if NZ beat PNG next week they're in the final against Aus assuming they will beat PNG and us.

Thats the problem for teams away especially with this format. By the time they get going its home time There needs to be more international games one way or another imo.

I do.

dear oh dear, nothing much changes! Can't believe we still can't produce a half back who can control the team, know what tackle it is and demand the ball to produce a right decision play on 5th tackle.

V disappointed in lack of aggresion in the English pack, have to say they were done over with the exception of Westmond and O'Loughlin. Graham finally came to life after watching his team mates get smashed for 5 tackles straight but all too little too late.

Our back line is not even close to Int standard from 1-7. Widdop? Do me a favour, the kid is playing reserve grade in Oz ffs!

Thank god PNG are in it is all I can say otherwise it would be another 0 in the win column.

Only players who can hold their heads up imo were:
Tompkins - looks the goods but needs to play a Benji role, receiving the ball wide and running at the line then offloading
O'Loughlin - Tackeld well, some nice offloads and hit the line hard
Westman, best forward for me. Only blemish was the missed tackle for their 3rd try otherwise my mom for England
Shenton - looks quality, decent size and speed and hopefully will get better as he gets older.

I don't

haha, Ive had a few John Smiths!