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| Quote: Channel Islander "Wintry conditions in Widnes'"
3,700 or so there....that is abysmal.
SL is tracking way behind the totals from 2017 so far.......so much for the changes in governance making us compete with Union as claimed by Pearson?  |
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The fans, the members, the people there.. from the day I stepped foot onto that field at the AJ Bell Stadium,I knew I would love that club for the rest of my life. "Jackson Hastings"..
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| Quote: Call Me God "3,700 or so there....that is abysmal. '"
Maybe as someone already said you could use your Marketing skills to make it better, or preferably your other role as the man upstairs now that should do it .  |
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Is this idea gathering momentum? Which clubs support the idea of 10 clubs?
I thought we were likely to be moving back to 14 clubs, which would be the right thing to do IMO.
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| Quote: Fully "Did you see the weather on Easter Monday? It was crap.
Ditto Thursday for the Cas v Wakey game. He weather is playing havoc - a lot of fans would rather stay at home and watch the games on the TV. If we want more TV money then we have to make the game as attractive as possible on TV for more viewers. Nothing to do with crowds at the game. Sky couldn’t care less if it gets 1 or 10001.'"
Classic RL fan apathy! |
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| Quote: Call Me God "Averages to date.....Leeds taking thhe game to Bell End Road was a cracking idea.
Leeds 15,318
St Helens 13,145
Hull FC 11,408
Warrington 11,370
Wigan 11,209
Hull KR 8,785
Castleford 7,708
Catalans 7,551
Huddersfield 5,794
Widnes 5,351
Wakefield 5,112
Salford 3,421
Leigh 3,644
Featherstone 2,405
Toulouse 2,134
Halifax 1,741
Barrow 1,400
Batley 1,195
London 1,072
Dewsbury 821
Swinton 821
Sheffield 689
Rochdale 541
Toronto 0... ![]()
Out of interest which of these towns/cities/hamlets listed above boast a powerhouse Football club or 2 on their doorstep? (that's soccer to some of you lot) And which of the teams on the list are from a rugby stronghold area? I'd argue that only 4 or 5 of these teams are from football dominated areas and all bar 1 have a big enough fan base/catchment area (and silverware) to cope with the competition on their doorstep.
It's great crowing about how well supported your team are when in all honesty your ty little towns and villages have s0d all to do except rugby league and your club is the heartbeat of your community and is passed down through generations.
Salford doesn't have that, bar a few hardcore supporters who'll be there through think and thin (or thin and thin in reality!  ). Throw in the fact that the RFL seem hell bent on shafting us at every opportunity with ridiculous fixture scheduling (Saints on Thu night in a fortnight being another prime example) and it's no wonder our already small crowds are dwindling.
Now I'm aware that the majority creaming themselves over this thread are trolls and I really shouldn't rise to it but just thought I'd put a few of you straight with some facts. 
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Leeds and Hull’s soccer teams are both well supported, yet the rugby league sides still get respectable sustainable attendances.
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Leeds and Hull’s soccer teams are both well supported, yet the rugby league sides still get respectable sustainable attendances.'"
hull city were well supported until the Allams alienated themselves from the fans
some suspicious looking attendances announced that dont look right on tv screens and photos on social media |
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| Quote: SaleSlim "Out of interest which of these towns/cities/hamlets listed above boast a powerhouse Football club or 2 on their doorstep? (that's soccer to some of you lot)<SNIP>but just thought I'd put a few of you straight with some facts. ![]()
Hmm...FACTS you say eh?
Leicester Tigers.......one of the best supported clubs of either code in the UK share their city with a Premiership Winning soccer team.
Saracens and Harlequins share an audience with Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, West Ham, QPR, Brentford, Charlton, Crystal Palace, Fulham and Millwall in the top 2 tiers of football and they all attract better gates than most of SL sides, whilst Quins and Sarries are 20k gate clubs.
Wasps. Coventry city average about 9k in the 3rd tier.....with Wolves and Birmingham on their doorstep...Wasps are a 20k club...and Coventry got 28k to an 'EVENT" game this year.
Bristol City attract 20k gates in the 2nd tier....only 14k in Rugby.....placing them only behind Leeds Rhinos........
Newcastle.....er....yep
Sale....er same stadium as Salford, same issues......more fans........and no local derbies against sides a bus ride away Like Wire, Widnes, Wigan or Saints......
I think Worcester, Bath, Gloucester and Northampton are the only clubs in the Aviva that don't compete with football/soccer clubs.......
In terms of best averages for a full season, it reads Leicester, Saracens, Quins, Bath Wasps LEEDS, WIGAN, London Irish, Northampton, Gloucester, HULL FC, Exeter, SAINTS, WIRE, Newcastle, CASTLEFORD, CATALANS, Worcester, LEIGH, Sale, HUDDS, WAKEY, WIDNES, SALFORD.........
24 TOP teams across both codes and League has 3 in the top 12.........all those League clubs with MAJOR soccer sides in them...which kind of makes your FACT pointless......Leeds United, Wigan Athletic and HULL City all attract bigger gates but the RL clubs do very well....Wakefield on the other hand have 325,000 people within 4 miles of their stadium.......and can't attract more than 1.5% of them to games.
The top 6 SL clubs in 2017 delivered 680,000 fans, the other 7 sides 510,000.......the clubs like Wigan, Hull, Leeds, Saints and Wire are the ones driving the competition.......Salford, Wakey, Huddersfield and Widnes are the ones holding us back in COMMERCIAL TERMS.......not historical or culturally......but for the game to grow and attracts fans and sponsors, we need to shed some of the deadweight.........
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Wow, torrential rain in Wigan all day!
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Warrington Wolfs - 0
Wakefield Trinity - 0
Leigh Centurions - 0
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Wigan. The 5th best supported team in sl. If you listen to their fans they claim that ever kids first words are that god awful chant of “wi-gun, wi-gun”. Their average attendance is embarassing
Regards
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| Quote: Lebron James "Wigan. The 5th best supported team in sl. If you listen to their fans they claim that ever kids first words are that god awful chant of “wi-gun, wi-gun”. Their average attendance is embarassing
Regards
King James'"
All the attendances this year SO FAR are a worry......less than an 8k average as of the start of April.....remove Leeds, Wire, Hull Saints and Wigan and it is 5,500  ...that is truly awful! |
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| Quote: Call Me God "All the attendances this year SO FAR are a worry......less than an 8k average as of the start of April.....remove Leeds, Wire, Hull Saints and Wigan and it is 5,500 ![]()
So without Leeds, Wire, Hull, Saints and Wigan, the Super League average attendance is lower than Toronto’s average in League 1.
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8750 is pretty decent for KR I believe, especially with a Catalans home game already thrown into that.
With the challenge for the Leeds game for next week going well with over 10k sold that average should rise further.
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I would expect the Wigan average figure to increase as the season progresses as we still have Saints, Leeds and Warrington to play at home and they are traditionally the 3 biggest attended games.
On the flip side I can see the Saints average dropping as their current figure is supplemented by a full house against Wigan and probably only have a home game to come against Warrington that will get close to/over their current average.
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HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. 
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