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| Don't know what it is about the video ref screwing over other teams for Saints. Firstly at Wakefield, then at Leeds a few week ago and now against Cas.
As for Cunningham, anyone think that he and Koukash would be a match made in heaven?
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| If we are going to make the on field ref guess then at least weight his decision accordingly. The VR has the benefit of multiple angles and slow motion replays so how can his analysis not carry more weight than an on field ref who has already stated he isn't sure what happened after seeing it once in real time?
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| Quote South Coast RL="South Coast RL"That has to go down as one of the worst decisions ever. There have been many VR decisions I haven't agreed with but with most I can understand why they came to the decision.
Greenwood changed his line and ran straight into the defender which created the gap. Should have been an easy no try decision.
It was a good game to watch however both coaches won't be happy with their defence. Could bee a costly win for St Helens with Walmsley and Wilkin going off injured.'"
You'll find the Ganson decision in the Hull Derby at magic weekend in 2013 iirc was the worst decision ever.
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| I think he pressed the wrong button!!
Normally when a 'Try' is to be awarded, they show the grounding. Last night i don't think they did, which suggested to everyone it was about to be called 'No Try'
I'm going to ask on Twitter, but they're such a defensive insular bunch, they'll never admit it
Ditch the VR, and lets accept the Ref's decision like the good old days. There will still be contentious arguments, there is no excuse for a VR to get it wrong
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| Quote barham red="barham red"Cunningham has come out and slagged off the VR system..... because it was all against Saints, couldn't make it up could you.'"
Cunningham has done that to try and deflect attention away from the massive call that went in his sides favour. Most coaches would do the same.
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| Quote LifeLongHKRFan="LifeLongHKRFan"You'll find the Ganson decision in the Hull Derby at magic weekend in 2013 iirc was the worst decision ever.'"
That's the main reason I said one of the worst.
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| Quote Sherbert Dip="Sherbert Dip"I think he pressed the wrong button!!
Normally when a 'Try' is to be awarded, they show the grounding. Last night i don't think they did, which suggested to everyone it was about to be called 'No Try'
I'm going to ask on Twitter, but they're such a defensive insular bunch, they'll never admit it
Ditch the VR, and lets accept the Ref's decision like the good old days. There will still be contentious arguments, there is no excuse for a VR to get it wrong'"
Or how about each team gets 1 or 2 reviews like in cricket, then once there gone thats it. This way, only the really dodgy calls would be sent upstairs.
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| Quote EHW="EHW"Lots of if's and but's there......if Wilkin's try was given at 18:0 then Cas are completely out of it, if Percival's try isn't disallowed then the gap is wider at the end. (I haven't watched it back on TV yet, so not 100% sure what the right calls were.'"
Very true. Just saying at that point when the try which shouldn't have been (and it isn't even debatable) was given it lead straight to another Saints try so the back to back killed them really. Obviously what would have happened from the penalty for obstruction at 26-24 nobody knows, but Cas should have had that opportunity.
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| Quote Biff Tannen="Biff Tannen"Or how about each team gets 1 or 2 reviews like in cricket, then once there gone thats it. This way, only the really dodgy calls would be sent upstairs.'"
Yeah let's create even more arbitrary nonsense. Should it be 1 call our 2? Or maybe even 3? Let's flip a coin to decide. Any decisions that the ref can't make after his quota he has to guess.
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| The system was much more reliable before this silly nonsense about the ref sending it up as either try or no try. As many people have already said, it's safe to assume that if he sends it to the VR, he isn't sure; so who on earth decided that it would add value to force the ref to make a decision about something that he's already decided he can't decide?
The VR is an imperfect but better than nothing system - just do away with the addition of the ref's call; it is an experiment that has demonstrably failed.
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| Quote Biff Tannen="Biff Tannen"Nope, Cas had a shocker of an opening quarter granted but huge credit for their spirited comeback, i was all set for switching over at 18-0 after 15 minutes!
Also, the decision was at such a key point in the game.26-24 to cas, the try is chalked off and Cas get the penalty go down field and, who knows?, finish the game off.But the try was followed up by an immediate penalty from the restart and try to Saints and a 12 point swing in 2 minutes.The fact they still got within 4 must be an absolute choker for the Cas fans, it was all on that shocker of a call too.'"
This is a good example of someone creating a narrative to suit their own agenda:
You appear to have forgotten Saints leading by 18 points and then having a scrum chalked off the board (on Cas' line) after their winger was dragged into touch.
Bad refereeing decisions? I've got a lifetime's supply of that hurt. 
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"This is a good example of someone creating a narrative to suit their own agenda:
You appear to have forgotten Saints leading by 18 points and then having a scrum chalked off the board (on Cas' line) after their winger was dragged into touch.
Bad refereeing decisions? I've got a lifetime's supply of that hurt.
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And My agenda is? Doesn't really matter anyway does it? bottom line is the call was a shocker.
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