Widdop can do better though, many say he looks good because who he has around him, I think in some ways that is the problem, he defers to some of the best in their positions in the World, he should change Clubs when his contract expires and establish himself on his own ability.

The shoulder/ push to Sinfield doesn't bother me at all pal, I didn't bring it up. It was a penalty and that was it.

The knee was totally accidental Watkins could do nothing about it in fact if you watch it he looked to be jumping out of the way as the storm player dived to get the ball.

As for the posters rant on unfit players letting the team mates down I said he didn't look 100% fit to me, I have no idea if this is the case.

Look Leeds were beaten by a better side but not by much it was a great game and is a joy to see the best players in the world playing live.

I thought you meant this.
[iPathetic thread really, Sinfiels was totally marked out of the game (illegally at one point) [/i he got a late push not a swinging arm to the Jaw.

Was he taken out illegally twice?

I hear what you are saying, my reply is if you are not fit enough to compete you should not take the field as you are letting your Team and Fans down, If you are fit then you get judged on your performance, its that simple.
If you take the field fit and take a knock and have to stay on as there are no replacements on the bench for your position that is something totally different.

It was a good game at times, it could have easily been by 12 points more if some of the controversial forward pass decisions had not gone Leeds way.

Ok fair enough I did mention it and it was illegal as it was a penalty (not making an issue if it!), I was using it as an example if Sinfield being a marked man.

It shows what a good player he is, that after one poor performance there is a 5 page thread dedicated to snipers discussing it.

I actually agree with you on players not being fit where I disagree is that you said McGuire had no impact when he clearly did

Ok

Jealous are we, be a while before we are using Bradford Bulls and WCC in the same sentence so I wouldn't worry too much.

And what do you think will happen if we play someone else at 6 in the WC and they're playing behind a beaten pack and been giving no time on the ball? Do you honestly think they'll somehow raise above that?

The problem last night (and for England looking at how they'll probably line up) is other players kicking. Last night it was always 'give it to Sinfield on the last' and Melbourne always went after him. Their was no need to always go to Sinfield for the kick as Burrow (a great 40/20 in the GF) and McGuire can also kick well at times but we didn't put any doubt in the minds of the Storm about who would recieve it on the 5th. Like I mentioned above England will probably have the same worry because of just leaving all kicking duties to Sinfield. If you know one player is going to end up with the ball 90% of the time on the 5th it makes things a lot easier to read.

Are you one of them?

Agree with this, I thought Widdop was the most disappointing player on the night and many would have him nailed on for the 6 jersey for England for only one reason... he plays for the NRL champions

it is only one game at the start of their season so i wouldnt write him off just yet.

That game is why ours is the best sport in the world. Great spectacle. I think Kevin Sinfield is a very fine rugby league footballer but he went 'missing' on Friday night.

I agree, I thought Widdop was very poor and looks like an average player in a very good team. Melbourne need cheap, and lets face it average, players like him in the team so they can keep the Slaters, Cronks and Smiths. Put him at a Hull or Bradford and no one would even be mentioning him for England.

Reed is another who is massively over hyped, every game I saw him last season he was poor and weak defensively but he plays in the NRL so lets make him a shoe in.

When Leeds needed him in the last 20mins he couldn't step up to the plate. A sign of a truly great player is to dig your team out of a hole and win the game. Sinfield is a quality player but not a great player imo.