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[quote="FlexWheeler":8f22o6ue]The extent of his coaching is ''BASH EM, JUST F*CKING BASH EM. HE'S LOW ON CONFIDENCE, BASH HIM'' He's a limited coach that won't last long term.[/quote:8f22o6ue] .... [quote="rubber duckie":8f22o6ue]That would make Wigan strong favourites then. With Ratchford at FB and Patton with Cronk in the halves, I think we'll do very well without Sam.[/quote:8f22o6ue]:



A few of those players I wouldn't have in even if we were in the middle of a injury crisis.

I would select

FB: Tomkins, Hardaker

WG: Hall, Charnley

CE: Watkins, Reed

SO: Widdop

SH: Lomax

General back cover: Ratchford, Makinson

As of yet I am undecided who deserves the other HB role.

LF: Lockers

2R: Ellis, Westwood, Hock, S.Burgess

PR: Graham, Mossop, Hill, L.Burgess, (final prop place is still up for grabs, some good players around)

HK: Roby, McIllorum

players who I would never take:
Sinfield
JJB
Ablett
Tickle
Wilkin

even though i have gone to this effort, we really dont know. there could be a young player that comes from know where next season to grabs a squad place.

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Hey, Im a Leeds and Luke Burgess fan and agree he has had a decent solid season in a top 4 side as you say.But IMO he is doing nothing more than he did in a Leeds Shirt and most rival fans would have laughed at the inclusion of him in an England squad a season ago.Obviously playing in the NRL for a season has turned him into a World Class International quality prop so i will wind my kneck in....

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Based on the season he's just had, Luke Burgess should be a lock to be in the England squad now. He's improved vastly.

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Here's my 23-man-er:

FB - Tomkins, Ratchford.
W - Briscoe, Charnley, Hall.
C - Atkins, Reed, Watkins.
HB - Widdop, Lomax, Pryce, Chase.

P - Burgess, Graham, Crabtree, Lynch, Hill.
H - Roby, Houghton.
BR - Westwood, Ellis, O'Loughlin, Hock.

Just a bit of fun init.

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What about Manu?

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Chrisy Heighington anyone?? NRL legend and proud englishman!

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Bit of fun with squad numbers attached, also 23 depends if he's English next year or not.

1-Sam Tomkins
2-Ryan Hall
3-Jack Reed
4-Ryan Atkins
5-Tom Briscoe
6-Gareth Widdop
7-Rangi Chase
8-Sam Burgess
9-James Roby
10-James Graham
11-Ben Westwood
12-Gareth Ellis
13-Sean O'Loughlin
14-Danny Houghton
15-Adrian Morley
16-Chris Hill
17-Gareth Hock
18-Stefan Ratchford
19-Josh Charnley
20-Eorl Crabtree
21-Garreth Carvell
22-Ben Harrison
23-Willie Manu/Andy Lynch

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Tomkins
Hall
Atkins
Watkins
Charnley
Widdop
Brough
Carvell
Roby
Graham
Ellis
Westwood
Burgess

Houghton
Hock
Mossop
Hill

Reserves: Hardacre, Reed, Ratchford, Briscoe, Crabtree, Morley, McClorum, L Burgess, O'Loughlin, Myler

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Hall and Reed worked well on the right, would imagine moving to the left would help there partnership.

Right - Watkins and charnely

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Backs:

Sam Tomkins, Josh Charnley (Wigan), Kallum Watkins, Ryan Hall, Zak Hardaker (Leeds), Jack Reed (Brisbane), Ryan Atkins, Chris Riley (Warrington)

Halves:

Gareth Widdop (Melbourne), Jonny Lomax (St Helens), Danny Brough (Huddersfield), Kevin Sinfield, Rob Burrow (Leeds), James Roby (St Helens, Captain)

Forwards:

Gareth Hock, Sean O'Loughlin (Wigan), Adrian Morley, Ben Westwood, Ben Harrison, Chris Hill (Warrington), James Graham (Canterbury), Sam Burgess (South Sydney), Gareth Ellis, Chris Heighington (Wests), Eorl Crabtree (Huddersfield)

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1 Tomkins
2 Charnley
3 Goulding
4 Reed
5 Hall
6 Widdop
7 Brough
8 Morley
9 Roby
10 Burgess
11 Hock
12 Westwood
13 Lockers

14 Graham
15 Hill
16 Lomax
17 Hardaker

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1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Atkins
4. Watkins
5. Hall
6. Chase
7. Brough
8. Burgess
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Manu
12. Westwood
13. Ellis

14. Sinfield
15. Hock
16. Mossop
17. Lynch

18. Carvell
19. O'Loughlin
20. Lomax
21. Crabtree
22. Briscoe
23. Hardaker

Widdop, Reed, Heighington all notably around there too. Could have likes of Hill and Larne Patrick; Josh Jones, Daryl Clark, Liam Watts, Joe Westerman, Scott Taylor, Yeaman, McIlorum, Danny Houghton, Tickle, Luke George, Luke Robinson, Kieran Dixon, Dan Sarginson and Craig Huby all around and knocking on the door too.

I think it's time to stop using the tried and tested likes of Wilkin, JJB, Morley and so forth.

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There are 3 English wingers who are a cut above the rest and that is Briscoe, Hall and Charnley. If I were to pick the two, it would be Briscoe and Hall. Charnley is a top winger but plays in easily the best team in the league and has many walk in tries. Like I said he's very good but not as good as the other two.

Tomkins
Hall
Reed
Atkins
Briscoe
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
S. Burgess
Ellis
Westwood
O'Loughlin

Is my 13, squad members

Houghton
Lynch
Hock
L. Burgess
Watts
Hardaker
Hill
Watkins
Charnley
Farrell
Carvell
Ratchford

No doubt I've missed others.

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anyone who leaves out Burrow is an idiot. The only better attacking runner in the northern hemisphere is Tomkins.

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I'd go:-

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Kallum Watkins
4. Jack Reed
5. Ryan Hall
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Danny Brough
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Sam Burgess
11. Ben Westwood
12. Gareth Ellis
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Lee Mossop
15. Chris Hill
16. Gareth Hock
17. Andy Lynch

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