Maybe they should come to some sort of compromise, like allow each state to play 3 or 4 players who arent eligible for Aus

No they shouldn't, Nz starting their own origin will help.

Point 1 - He's right. Origin is killing international RL over there. Possible solution would need to be to get the other nations involved in their own 3-match series so they can keep their players. We've got our international origin series over here that does a trick. Why not NZ vs the Pacific Isles 3 test series at the same time as origin? Build it up. Play it in Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch. It will build the Kiwi brand as well as give the PI nations' players a cash boost that may keep them from playing for Austin or NZ.

Point 2 - I think the two tier system is a better idea than the perennial nation switching situation that we have now. However, there needs to be a better descriptor for who are tier 1 and who are tier 2, and how you can go from tier 2 to tier 1, rather than just picking some nations because of history and tradition.

I don't understand why players can't play for one state and another nation that isn't Australia.

I think i'm right in saying Jarryd Hayne's dad is from Fiji and his mum is from NSW. So Hayne is a Fijian AND a New South Welshman. So why can't he represent both?

Fiji could effectively play Hayne, Uate, Civoniceva and Tuqiri but don't mainly because
A) they don't play that often but even it they did because of
B) State of Origin rules.

Been saying this for ages. Apparently Sam Burgess is now eligible to declare dual nationality and play in Origin for NSW next season but has declined to do so because it would make him ineligible for England. If the money keeps getting upped though he could eventually be tempted, although I'm not sure how well a pommie playing Origin would go down in Oz, regardless of how good he is

If you want to play origin you play for Australia, it's a Australian trial game!

Maybe so but the problem is you dont have to be Australian to play Origin. Australia cherry-pick the best talent from the South Sea Islands by dangling the Origin carrot, which weakens the international game as a whole. That's Vagana's point. Although to be fair Vagana did play for New Zealand despite being from Samoa so it's a little rich coming from him!

No it isn't.

Origin has never been a trial game or series to determine who is selected for Australia.

Where did the concept come from?

Danila Anderson has spoken/writen about the ins and out of teh tier structure, could offer International RL a real shot in the arm. Especially between World Cups.

What are you on about? Aside from uate, who should still be playing for Fiji and not for nsw/Australia (despite the fact he had never played rugby league before emigrating to aus), who have Australia cherry picked from the south sea islands. Every single national team has players born and/or raised in Australia, yet Australia weakens international rugby league? How does that work?

It's very rich coming from vagana considering that NZ are the worst nation when it comes to "cherry picking" other nations players. The most recent player is a young kid from the warriors in Konrad hurrell who is going to be a superstar. He moved from tonga to NZ 3 years ago on a rugby union scholarship before taking up rugby league and has already stated he wants to play for the kiwis. NZ are the biggest hypocrits of all!

All that needs to happen is a fairer schedule of meaningful test matches and rep games for all nations both mid year and post season and a one country for life rule and we are well on our way to reaching our potential as an international sport. Vaganas two tier system is ridiculous and will ensure that these national teams are packed full of players who would drop them for aus or NZ as soon as they are good enough. Players must commit to the nation, not play when they don't make their first choice. Leave origin to Australians as it is, other countries should be giving players with dual nationality the choice to make the decision and stick to it!

Uate aside, the other 3 players are Australian, they are playing for their state and their country. The arl have every right to ensure australian players make up their state teams! What they shouldnt have the right to do is pick players who play for other countries if they choose to have that rule! They also shouldn't be allowed to stop other countries from holding their own rep series or test series when origin is on. This is where Australia holds the game back, not by taking stealing other countries players which in the most part is a lie!

Agree with this. Are England stealing Brough? Or has he just played for another country he is eligible for whilst waiting for his chance to play for his country of birth? I think the latter, and it's the same for the vast majority of Australian players that people consider "stolen" from the Pacific Island nations. They're just taking advantage of the international rules until their chance comes for THEIR home nations. If you take that rule away, I think you'll find that they won't play for those other nations at all (and not "stop Aus stealing players from other test nations, thus making the others stronger" like many seem to believe, if only it were that simple!).

I think New Zealand vs the Pacific Islands would go a long way in giving players of the smaller island nations (who don't play all that often) a big stage to play on 3 times a year. That is what they are after, and that is why they choose their home nation over their nation of heritage.

Didn't Adrian Lam play for Queensland and PNG?

Yes he did. As has Neville Costigan. Rules only bent to suit the Aussies!