who?

Unless I'm missing summat the post above my last one..

whats fans of which club are making the most noise?

That's us without a doubt.
We were booted out in 1996 not relegated to make way for psg we have kept going and plodding on now I think we deserve at least a chance.
But to some that doesn't matter,the change is happenig it's up to the clubs and fans how they take it

I'm more intrigued by which village team is better run than saints wigan Leeds Huddersfield and Warrington (or big boys as he put it)

Thats what i was referring to.

I'm talking about the so called big boys in my area sorry.

Missed that one haha

Can you explain how Huddersfield are well run, considering they need several hundred thousand pounds tipping in every season?

But isn't that the point that (in particular) the Wigan and saints fans in this thread are trying to get across?

There are much bigger things in the sport than these chip on the shoulder infighting in West Yorkshire. Would fev of managed any better than Wakefield in the last 15 years? Who knows. But surely keeping a system where youth development and sustainable growth are encouraged is better for the game as a whole, than a system entirely designed to find out that question?

As I said in my previous post, looking beyond your own club, do you not see the damage it will do to those who have ambitions to be a top club in the country but have set about a long road to do so? People already complain about the top clubs getting the best youngsters as it is, being a regular in the top 8 is going to start being a requirement for the best youngsters to sign with you, and those that are developed outside will be harvested, as with the likes of Chris hill and Alex walmsley now. Teams who can invest in youth but don't to ensure survival/ desperately chase the 8 are just going to go the way of Bradford, desperately pawing at the idea of being top 8, putting teams together they really can't afford, and falling short meaning offseason upon offseason of financial insecurity.

Mistakes have been made, and personally the changes to the licensing system would of included, if you go bust everyone has a chance to submit a proposal for your place in super league, which may of led to fev getting there chance (if your administration was anywhere near the quality you think it is) - but surely taking that chance would of been better than this half way house idea that just damages the bottom half of super league as it is?

At the end of the day, I reckon this years super league will be the best yet. Every player at every club will be playing to stay in the top flight and that should make for some cracking games.
Then at the end of the season the fans of the bottom 2 clubs have nothing to moan about, there team will have been the worst over the period of the season and will have deserved to be relegated, (no more safety net).

Then its time to show if your a true supporter, stick by your team or take your bat and ball home beacuase you have to travel to " a small village team" as someone has called them.

Personally I cant wait for next year now, I cant wait for the so called big boys to come to The Shay, LSV, Mount Pleasant and especially Post Office Road, and get a shock , and to quote the great Kevin Keegan " I would love it if we beat them, Love it".

I do understand what your saying but when I see my club doing well on and off the field and our neighbours doing little apart from a nice drawing about the latest new stadium been in the wakefield express it starts to grate on you.
We are developing a youth system and trying to do things right, I know we will never be a wigan or saints but after 19 years since we lost our place I'm dammed if I'm gonna say we don't deserve our chance..

what will shock them about going to those grounds? its like certain fans believe in the mystical fairy tale. I remember wigan playing and featherstone the pitch was so horrible it shouldn't have been played on is that what will shock players? or the noise of 2-3 thousand fans compared to 8-16thousdand?

Like i said before it's about the team not the crowds or the pitch..that will be relaid soon to fit in with the development

The bottom line is nobody KNOWS what will happen, and that at least means that it should be interesting

Licencing should have worked, but right from the start with the Celtic farce it was doomed

So now we have this