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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: Him "The government assists certain businesses and industries regularly. Either through tax breaks or government grants to incentivise the behaviour they want to see, or through direct assistance when a significant company is in dire need.'"
YEAH...and to a man here we call the government s for doing so and the recipients s!
What does that make the RFL and the Bulls? |
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| Quote: MjM "Finances were but one of five criteria - and not the deciding one by any means.
A firm like KPMG is able to independently review both financial and non-financial information - their review was not for the finance side alone. Given you seem to think that, if financially in trouble, a club wouldn't get a licence, I can see how you can misunderstand the Bulls' subsequent problems as being indicative of a failure of the licencing system.'"
So we agree that finances were considered an important part of the licensing process.  |
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| Quote: Cripesginger "So we agree that finances were considered an important part of the licensing process. 
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: gutterfax "but they were the only one to receive it and then return begging for more, then more again still without cutting their cloth accordingly.
At least in soccer Leeds United got it over and done with quickly.....if the Bulls were real Bulls, the RSPCA would have stepped in with a shotgun by now ![]()
Erm no. Bradford weren't. You do need to check the time line of what happened again.
Leeds got it over and done with Quickly? They slipped to the third tier, went in to admin twice, lost their stadium, training ground, and haven't got anywhere near to recovering 10 years later. And you want us to think you aren't trolling........
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: gutterfax "why?
Because we both think Bradford have been extended line after line of credit they didn't deserve?
Because we think that Bradford's abject failure to accept their plight and refusal to cut their cloth is unacceptable?
Getting tired of the troll moniker if I'm honest, but I refuse to agree with s and their opinions to make it stop......
There are prostitutes in France with less regular customers than Bradford have had owners since 2011......and the analogy works well here ![]()
If you are getting tired of the troll moniker, there is an obvious solution. Stop being a troll
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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Erm no. Bradford weren't. You do need to check the time line of what happened again.'"
That many bail outs it gets confusing |
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| Quote: gutterfax "YEAH...and to a man here we call the government nice people for doing so and the recipients s!
What does that make the RFL and the Bulls?'"
Smarter than most Kiwis then if that's what they really do, though I doubt it. I think your ego has just swelled so that you now talk for a whole nation
Government intervention happens all the time in varying ways and when disasters that could seriously affect the nation happen they don't just sit there and say "meh they deserved it", if possible they try to find a way to keep that important business or industry going. |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: gutterfax "That many bail outs it gets confusing ![]()
It's like this, when you clearly and obviously contradict yourself. You spent months up and down these boards posting diatribes full of made up figures and nonsense explaining how big RU is, you don't do this to troll, oh no, not to get a reaction on an RL board but simply to highlight how silly the comparison is. Yet you have just (because you read on here i was a Leeds Utd fan) compared RL to fsking football of all things! You may aswell have compared us to cheese. And you want to pretend you aren't a troll........
And I think you are looking to wrong target regards London. Though I'm pretty sure those who give those type of comments re London aren't trolls for the most part they really are that stupid
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| Quote: gutterfax "
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Leeds spent what they didn't have based on predictions...went to the floor and guess what, the GAME survived.......goodbye Bradford and don't let the door hit you on the booty on the way out!
And that's the problem right there. To RL a Leeds United style downfall is a disaster whereas to football it's merely an interesting story.
Leeds United were 1 of 92 fully pro football clubs.
Bradford were 1 of 14/15/16? fully pro RL clubs and some of those can barely be described as pro clubs.
Football can afford to have clubs go to the wall, RL can't to anywhere near the same extent.
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| Quote: MjM "Oh, sorry, it's just when you said, "Unfortunately the RFL and their assistants have been dire when checking club finances" I assumed you actually meant it - when, in fact, you have no idea what the assessment of the finances was, or if it was dire, because that was only one part of a larger whole.
Anyway, this discussion is going nowhere - it's evident you're almost as much of a troll as gutterfax.'"
You are clearly hard of thinking. The RFL and their assistants have been dire.
If you took time to get hold of license criteria you would know what is being assessed. I have, why don't you? 
The RFL + KPMG in July 2012 gave a club a green light yet by Sept - Dec 2012 had given advances of 500k + and then tried to cover this cock up by buying the stadium  Some posters on here see at best incompetence. You appear to think it is all hunky dory...as I said..we differ. |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Mild Rover "I disagree. There's no point being bloody minded and forcing a club over the edge, for the sake of not giving them a couple of weeks advance. But they went beyond that.
If the governing body of this country helped out Sainsbury's, then Tesco, Asda and Mick and Ange who run the little local convenience shop would play merry hell. If you help one, you have to help them all or you're distorting the system.
Also ultimately their efforts failed. Or rather were wasted. Fair enough, Bradford made it through the season and have lived to fight another day, which is great. But as a newco, so buying the Odsal lease and all the fundraising was for naught. Now to have made it clear they'd accept a newco earlier would have been controversial, and this is being wise with hindsight, but it'd have avoided a lot of wasted cash and effort. Plus we've had to bin off licensing. With hindsight they made an enormous booty of it all and it has been a great advert for a less interventionist approach, moving forward.'"
The. RFL, it has to be remembered didn't lose money because of Bradford. So none of the games money was wasted.
And I think your analogy highlights a big difference in how we see the game. I don't see the clubs as the Asda, tesco sainsburys fighting for dominance and the little corner shop being left behind. I see the game as the Tesco, and football and cricket and RU as you asdas, waitrose and sainsburys. I don't think it's logical to think we should treat our superstores as we do our tesco expresses |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: Cripesginger "You are clearly hard of thinking. The RFL and their assistants have been dire.
If you took time to get hold of license criteria you would know what is being assessed. I have, why don't you? ![]()
Neither the RFL nor KMPG by giving Bradford the green light, in any way shape or form guaranteed they would work.
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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "It's like this, when you clearly and obviously contradict yourself. You spent months up and down these boards posting diatribes full of made up figures and nonsense explaining how big RU is, you don't do this to troll, oh no, not to get a reaction on an RL board but simply to highlight how silly the comparison is. Yet you have just (because you read on here i was a Leeds Utd fan) compared RL to fsking football of all things! You may aswell have compared us to cheese. And you want to pretend you aren't a troll........
And I think you are looking to wrong target regards London. Though I'm pretty sure those who give those type of comments re London aren't trolls for the most part they really are that stupid'"
The leeds united thing was 100% luck.....swear to whatever god you worship!
As for the "made up figures"....break even for a SL club is around about 5 million......3.5 or so needed from the club itself. The Ian L figure at Quins in 2008 was about a tenner a ticket with another tenner residual, so there's 2.6 with another 0.9 needed from other commercial activity (sponsors/corporates).
My figures aren't 100% Accurate, but they are a lot closer than those peddled by the RFL and Bradford regarding the iconic bulls over the last couple of years.
As for trolling....I disagree with you I am a troll. I disagree with you and mention Union I am a union troll. What happens when I agree with you and we are both wrong about Bradford and Union?
Tell you what, if the price of knowing Union is bigger and that the RFL have given Bradford more help than is warranted is being called a troll, WHERE MY FUCKING BRIDGE! |
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| Quote: gutterfax "The leeds united thing was 100% luck.....swear to whatever god you worship!
As for the "made up figures"....break even for a SL club is around about 5 million......3.5 or so needed from the club itself. The Ian L figure at Quins in 2008 was about a tenner a ticket with another tenner residual, so there's 2.6 with another 0.9 needed from other commercial activity (sponsors/corporates).
My figures aren't 100% Accurate, but they are a lot closer than those peddled by the RFL and Bradford regarding the iconic bulls over the last couple of years.
As for trolling....I disagree with you I am a troll. I disagree with you and mention Union I am a union troll. What happens when I agree with you and we are both wrong about Bradford and Union?
Tell you what, if the price of knowing Union is bigger and that the RFL have given Bradford more help than is warranted is being called a troll, WHERE MY loving BRIDGE!'"
But you do make up figures AND facts and try and pass them off as true. You've been caught out doing it many times.
You revel in the Bulls trouble, adding nothing to the debate but instead dance around going "I told you so" like a child.
You're a troll, pure and simple and while you were amusing for awhile you're now just becoming boring. |
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