I've read some of your posts from the summer when the Crusaders were flying. I didn't detect any help was needed from the RFL in those posts mate.

I would seriously worry if they're going to rely on the RFL. Not exactly a shining example of a stable-policy driven organisation is it?

No point trying to have a debate with this guy, SL's problems are all resolved if Wakey are replaced with Widnes or so he likes to tell everyone

and when toulouse get all their special conditions removed it will have even more credibility..!

because its a european league not a lancs and yorkshire league.

Come on mate only RL could have one french team and one welsh and call it a european league.

On that basis Leeds Utd play in Europe every week given there are two welsh teams in the Championship!!

Don't forget the advertising revenue that a Welsh club brings in for BskyB. If you cut them from Super League then Murdoch definately will pull the plug for sure. So really, if it wasn't for these expansion clubs, the game would die a quick death. So stop being so one-eyed and get behind these new ventures. It's the lifeblood of the game. Apparently. Or so someone with a far better insight into the game will shortly tell you on this thread.

Do you really, honestly, believe that?

well said rich, nothing happened in rugby league until we got a pro welsh team.

Of course. Anyhoo, i'm off to get a cheese sandwich. I cut a nice wedge of it from the Moon today.

I am no expert on such matters but as far as I am aware going into administration does not allow Crusaders to just write off their debts and start again with a clean slate. As I understand it administration allows an insolvent business to carry on trading in the hope the situation will improve in order that it can in due course pay off its debts and it is the administrator's foremost duty to safeguard the interests of the creditors not the supporters or the RL. Therefore unless someone comes in with an offer to buy the club and pay off its debts in one fell swoop the administrator's priority will be selling off players and replacing those on big salaries with more affordable ones in order to raise money to pay back the creditors (which incidentally includes all of us who are taxpayers). Under such circumstances its difficult to see Crusaders fielding a competetive team and being much of an asset to SL over the next few seasons without an extremely wealthy Sugar Daddy or consortium who are prepared to bankroll the debts.

but the rfl want to develope SLE.
they want TO in there.
in a few years they'll be looking at SWS's,earlier this year paris were mentioned again.
you can only have half a dozen clubs from the north in a genuine european league,the rest are just making up the numbers until these clubs and others are ready to step up.
from the outside looking in,thats how i see it.

.........making sure that their exorbitant fees are covered, leaving in fact - naff all for the creditors.

Yes that is what the RL want, but other than Catalans the Crusaders and to an extent Harlequins are hardly blueprints for advocating letting more expansion teams in at the expense of heartlands clubs.

I'm apprehensive. I think whilst it may affect it slightly, I can't see Sky pulling the plug completely.

Well the RFL certainly do, one of the RFL (was rumoured) said as much last week