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| Quote: vernon "There are a load of possibilities at 13 - Sam Burgess, O'Loughlin, Purdham, Langley, Gaz Ellis, Wilkin, Joe Westerman. Kevin Sinfield has one quality the others lack - intelligence. As demonstrated by the short kick off on Saturday which turned the game in Leeds' favour.'"
Rob Purdham is an intelligent RL player as are Westerman, Wilkin and O'Loughlin. Langley, Burgess & Ellis i'll give us as just the go forward ones though. | | |
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| Quote: vernon "There are a load of possibilities at 13 - Sam Burgess, O'Loughlin, Purdham, Langley, Gaz Ellis, Wilkin, Joe Westerman. Kevin Sinfield has one quality the others lack - intelligence. As demonstrated by the short kick off on Saturday which turned the game in Leeds' favour.'"
Or his intelligen ce against bradford getting caught with the ball instead of taking the drop. Or the intelligence of not taking the 2 in the final a few years ago. Sinfield should not be anywhere near the squad. | | |
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Sinfield looked great at 9 last year, really good I thought.
I wouldn't mind him interchanging with someone like Lunt or Roby. In fact I'd Sinfield looked as good at 9 any of our hookers have looked in recent times
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yeah i think our pack worked well during the 4nations, having sinfield starting at 9 with roby on the bench and burgess starting at 13 was very good....
our problems lie at 1-7 not 8-17....OZ & NZ would kill for our pack and bench
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Which doesn't exactly answer the question as to why we were knackered after 60 minutes in the final.
We've got a good pack, we're not streets ahead of the aussies or kiwis by any stretch
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RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
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Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
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RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
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i would'nt say knackered....shenton getting KTFO killed all our momentum,the aussies too adventage,targeted our leftside and ran in 4 tries in 15mins all as a result of breaking the line down that leftside....
like i said not so much through being knackered more like a loss of concentration....and we've known for years the aussies have it mentally over us..
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| Quote: bigtruck "Or his intelligen ce against bradford getting caught with the ball instead of taking the drop. Or the intelligence of not taking the 2 in the final a few years ago. Sinfield should not be anywhere near the squad.'"
So when Wally Lewis - a man who knows a thing or two - picked Sinfield after last years 4 Nations as one of the top 3 players in the world, and said England should build the team around him, he was talking rubbish ? | | |
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| Quote: roughyedspud "i would'nt say knackered....shenton getting KTFO killed all our momentum,the aussies too adventage,targeted our leftside and ran in 4 tries in 15mins all as a result of breaking the line down that leftside....
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we were pretty soft in defence with him on the pitch
Quote: roughyedspud "So when Wally Lewis - a man who knows a thing or two - picked Sinfield after last years 4 Nations as one of the top 3 players in the world, and said England should build the team around him, he was talking rubbish ?'"
You forgot the important counter argument
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OLDHAM RLFC
RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
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Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
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| Quote: Hopie "we were pretty soft in defence with him on the pitch
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it took till the final for us to concede a 2nd half point....not too bad for a soft defence | | |
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| Quote: roughyedspud "i would'nt say knackered....shenton getting KTFO killed all our momentum,the aussies too adventage,targeted our leftside and ran in 4 tries in 15mins all as a result of breaking the line down that leftside....'"
We had scored twice in the space of five minutes just prior to this supposed game changing moment, both down the same side.
Quote: roughyedspud "like i said not so much through being knackered more like a loss of concentration....and we've known for years the aussies have it mentally over us..'"
Loss of concentration is due to fatigue. | | |
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| Quote: vernon "So when Wally Lewis - a man who knows a thing or two - picked Sinfield after last years 4 Nations as one of the top 3 players in the world, and said England should build the team around him, he was talking rubbish ?'"
Of course he's not, but when Steve Price names Graham as one of the top props in the world, he is  | | |
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| Quote: vernon "So when Wally Lewis - a man who knows a thing or two - picked Sinfield after last years 4 Nations as one of the top 3 players in the world, and said England should build the team around him, he was talking rubbish ?'"
Quite obviously YES!!! | | |
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| Quote: vernon "So when Wally Lewis - a man who knows a thing or two - picked Sinfield after last years 4 Nations as one of the top 3 players in the world, and said England should build the team around him, he was talking rubbish ?'"
Remind me of Wally Lewis' coaching record again? | | |
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| Quote: CAM. "Remind me of Wally Lewis' coaching record again?'"
Quote: CAM. "from wikiThe following year he stopped playing but continued coaching the Seagulls, but departed after a third consecutive wooden spoon.
Lewis also coached the Queensland State of Origin side in 1993 and 1994 but never won a series.
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