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I'd swap it all tho to be back to back champs icon_biggrin.gif

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Don't Leeds also have the claim to fame of being in the 1st ever grand final?

And getting beat by wigan.

Oh that don't count tho coz wigan broke the salary cap that year icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: St pete "Sorry damo but history and facts prove we have won alot more than Leeds.
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Yes you have won a lot more than Leeds. But this doesn’t mean you have a better history than Leeds. Winning more stuff is just winning more stuff. Winning more stuff doesn’t mean you have a brillient history though.

Celtic Crusaders are in super league ahead of Widnes. But who has the better history despite the circumstances?

Leeds have a better history than St Helens despite the saints winning more stuff end of.

Quote: St pete "1st team to win super league.'"


Neil Armstrong was the first man to step on the moon but does that make him the best astronaut to step on the moon?

Quote: St pete "1st team to win it twice.'"


George Washington was the first president of the united states but does this mean he was the best president of all time?

Quote: St pete "1st team to win challenge cup at new wembley.'"


Floyd Mayweather, Jr was the first person to knock Ricky Hatten out in his professional career. Does this make Manny Pacquiao’s knockout second best?

Quote: St pete "1st team to win league leaders sheild.'"


Tony Hawks was the first person to walk round Ireland with a fridge. Does this make him the best ever person to walk round Ireland with a fridge?

Quote: St pete "More super league champs than any team.

More challenge cups in super league era.'"


That I’ve already given you credit for. But you have broken the salary cap in the SL era. Just accept the facts. You should pick on a side more your own size with Wigan Warriors when it comes to history & cups you BULLY.

Quote: St pete "Don't make me list our trophies next to yours '"


Please do

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I don't give $hit who was 1st on moon or any of that crap that has nothing at all to do with rugby.

Super league records say we have better history than you. Fact

We won super league more than Leeds.fact

We won more challenge cups than Leeds. Fact

We won more league leaders sheilds than Leeds. Fact

We topped super league more than Leeds. Fact

We have better history than Leeds. Fact

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So damo you admit that saints and wigan have better history than Leeds?

Also maybe the bulls!

Best Yorkshire team to play super league?

The bulls. Fact

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Quote: St pete "I don't give $hit who was 1st on moon or any of that crap that has nothing at all to do with rugby.
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I’m just giving other examples that first don’t always mean your better.

Quote: St pete "Super league records say we have better history than you. Fact'"


Yeah this is signature material. A saints fan saying rugby league started in 1997!

Quote: St pete "We won super league more than Leeds.fact'"


Doesn’t make you the best super league side though. I’m sure Leeds Rhinos hold record for the best deffence and attack in a season.

Quote: St pete "We won more challenge cups than Leeds. Fact'"


It’s a cup competition that’s seen better days. At least Leeds were winning it whilst the whole competition was appreciated and not just the final.

Quote: St pete "We won more league leaders sheilds than Leeds. Fact
We topped super league more than Leeds. Fact'"


www.therhinos.co.uk/club/history/317.php
Quote: St pete "I don't give $hit who was 1st on moon or any of that crap that has nothing at all to do with rugby.
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I’m just giving other examples that first don’t always mean your better.

Quote: St pete "Super league records say we have better history than you. Fact'"


Yeah this is signature material. A saints fan saying rugby league started in 1997!

Quote: St pete "We won super league more than Leeds.fact'"


Doesn’t make you the best super league side though. I’m sure Leeds Rhinos hold record for the best deffence and attack in a season.

Quote: St pete "We won more challenge cups than Leeds. Fact'"


It’s a cup competition that’s seen better days. At least Leeds were winning it whilst the whole competition was appreciated and not just the final.

Quote: St pete "We won more league leaders sheilds than Leeds. Fact
We topped super league more than Leeds. Fact'"


www.therhinos.co.uk/club/history/317.php


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The best poster on rlfans for constantly spouting e - Damo - FACT

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Saints won,you all need to get over It.

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Quote: St pete "So damo you admit that saints and wigan have better history than Leeds?
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I edited so it said history & cups. If you want to laugh at Leeds because of our cup record then your ought to pick on a bigger cup record than yourselves. You would never see me going on a Castleford forum and pointing out that our cups are more in numbers than yours.

Leeds have the best history in the whole of super league. St Helens and Wigan may of won more than us but they’ll never have an history as proud and humble as ours.

Quote: St pete "The bulls. Fact'"


The Bulls had they little patch and they one year wonder in 2005 which was a blatant breach of the salary cap.

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Quote: newport dave "The best poster on rlfans for constantly spouting poop - Damo - FACT'"

Yet in this case he appears to be the more rational one.

Who'd have thought it...

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Quote: Damo-Leeds "I edited so it said history & cups. If you want to laugh at Leeds because of our cup record then your ought to pick on a bigger cup record than yourselves. You would never see me going on a Castleford forum and pointing out that our cups are more in numbers than yours.

Leeds have the best history in the whole of super league. St Helens and Wigan may of won more than us but they’ll never have an history as proud and humble as ours.



The Bulls had they little patch and they one year wonder in 2005 which was a blatant breach of the salary cap.'"


Yes damo but u was saying we only win all these cups coz we cheat!!

How wrong could you be.

Man of steel= scully(twice), Lyon, wellens, roby, graham. Did they all cheat?

BBC team of the year was saints even before the Ryder cup team.

BBC coach of the year was Anderson that was before any other coach in any sport that year. Did he cheat?

Look damo, saints are steeped in super league history. You can't deny it!!!

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Quote: St pete "Yes damo but u was saying we only win all these cups coz we cheat!!

How wrong could you be.
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Quote: St pete "Yes I agree on the field you have been the best team in the super league era because of solid hard work. However you have breached minor salary cap restrictions in order to do this. But to say that the Salary cap is the only reason why St Helens are good would be silly.

I’m just saying that you have cheated off field in order to gain success on field however big or minor that breach was you breached it. Still there’s no taking away that you have been the most successful side in the SL era due to the amount of cups you have won.
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Quote: St pete "Man of steel

Can’t say much for Scully, Lyon and Wellens & Graham. Trent Barrett we all agree was the better player than James Roby that year. Most people will even go as far as saints players get MOS these days before the season has even started. But I just think the roby one was the dodgy one.

Quote: St pete "BBC team of the year was saints even before the Ryder cup team.'"


I don’t know what the competition was for excellent teams that year sport wise but it was a wonderful result for rugby league no doubt.

Quote: St pete "BBC coach of the year was Anderson that was before any other coach in any sport that year. Did he cheat?'"


The most over rated coach after Wayne Bennett. Wally Lewis could of coached that saints team to the same highs that season!

Quote: St pete "Look damo, saints are steeped in super league history. You can't deny it!!!'"


Yes you are. But Leeds still have a better history overall. Rugby League did not start in 1997.

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I've checked out your link to Leeds history.

Now you look at ours.

That debate is over. Saints win.

You are the 2nd best team in Yorkshire if you wanna look at super league history.

It seems for all our awards you have sumat to say against.

For the record I do like Leeds. They are good club, good rugby ground, good fans but no history.

I also respect Leeds for the youth policy and I've liked your last 2 coaches but smith is by far better than mini me.

I think if Leeds keep up with the youth system they will have a good history in bout 10 years.

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Your correct rugby didn't start in 1997 but it didn't start only 2 years ago either icon_wink.gif

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Quote: St pete "<snip>'"


And I like St Helens. I’ve checked the history* of the town but not the club. We all have our own opinions. Great debate that has taken up a chunk of the evening.

Cheers and good luck for the rest of the season. icon_biggrin.gif

*Someone from St Helens become the president / prime minister of New Zealand.

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