B*ll*cks Rangi Chase was harshly treated - he got off lightly as there was clear intent to injure! Same against Fev a few years ago the grub dilberately elbowed a Fev player in the face and broke his jaw - only got a small ban for that too.

Nothing in the JB tackle on Shenton, these tackles are made week in week out, he's just unfortunate that this resulted in injury. The disciplinary have proved yet again they are a farce.

I thought the Chase ban was a game or two heavy (but was probably based on his previous as well) but there was no doubt it was in a different league to this Boudebza one.

They'll be handing out four game bans like confetti this year if they're consistent (which we know they won't be).

Statement from HKR about the whole debacle. www.hullkr.co.uk/club/news/artic ... n-boudebza

Statement from HKR about the whole debacle. www.hullkr.co.uk/club/news/artic ... n-boudebza

Whilst the RFL Disciplinary clearly explains their justification what is often lost, especially when viewing thing frame by frame on video, is the speed of decision making and deliberation of intent that occurs in real time. People fall awkwardly, initial contact slips, yet when slowed everything is diagnosed as a deliberate action, rather than a symptomatic reaction.

But, end of, if these chairman are so dissatisfied with the running of the game, the TV deal, sponsorships, salary caps,the disciplinary system etc, then shouldn't they, en-mass, do something about it - form a breakaway perhaps....

Should it have to come to that though? surely in a professional sport the very least we can ask for is consistency of decision making.

I have sympathy for referees, they make decisions at full speed on a crowded field often in poor conditions. Once anything video based comes into then there should be no real need for debate, it should be either conclusive right / wrong decision or a not able to tell due to camera angles etc. Once debated and a definite decision come to it should then be pretty black and white decision.

Yet week after week we see poor video ref decisions, inconsistency in what is punished and what isn't, this simply should not happen. Think it was last year when FC tried to defend Paea by showing 4 or 5 other incidents, some in the same game that had gone unpunished yet it was just ignored, the panel dismissed this off hand.

If the RFL have a better camera angle that shows bad technique and intent of the Boudebza incident then show it, If JB had a record of hurting people in tackles then that would be mitigating yet if as seems to be the case there isn't either of these and it was just an honest tackle that was deemed bit clumsy in very wet conditions then the decision to ban him for double the tariff stinks.

1. Even the angle Sky have shows Boudebza recklessly applying undue pressure to Shenton's knee with the leg whip the RFL correctly point out. Just because it wasn't massively obvious to you doesn't mean it isn't there. If he doesn't leg whip and lose control, Shenton doesn't miss an entire season + international series.

2. A previous clean record as well as showing remorse (text Shenton after the incident) were taken into account as mitigating factors. If Boudebza had only one or neither of these mitigating factors his ban would have been between 5-7 games.

3. As they point out, the initial grade is a guideline only, if new evidence comes to light they are free to go over or under it as appropriate.

Hudgell throwing his teddy out of the cot is nothing new and if he feels so strongly then why did he as an ambulance chaser not go to the hearing to defend his player as opposed to sending the coach and a flimsy argument of "oh well erm...he slipped?"?

Now the RFL just need to actually be consistent for once and keep throwing 1-2 game charges out for this crap with room to bump it up for other factors (injury, previous record). That and y'know just straight up ban the "3rd man in" making any contact at all with an opponents knee.


A few teams have tried that in the past and it never works, which is crazy. It's probably more a thing of "well they didn't get charged, sorry can't do anything about it".

Whoever does the citing on a Monday and sends things to the panel needs changing, not necessarily the panel itself which changes on a regular basis anyway.

Hudgell has made specific claims that the panel pre-judged the appeal before submissions were received and that inadmissible evidence was used against JB.

Now there's an argument about the relative importance of process and outcome, and I know you are satisfied with the panel's decision. Given what Hudgell has charged, and bearing in mind that it is a decision that has sparked controversy, do you think there's a case for reviewing the conduct of this panel? I'm not making any suggestion that they're corrupt or malicious, but if what NH says is true, then I think it is fair to say they've been 'reckless' - they do after all have a duty of care to the game.

It should he independently looked at, if it's true those involved should be banned. Just as all claims of this nature should be.

If it's just made up by Hudgell then he should receive a record fine for accusing the RFL of essentially fixing an outcome. Remember this isn't the first time he's accused an RFL employee of being "anti KR"(complaint against Thaler a few years ago based on what someone in the refs dressing room told him).

Agreed - it is a serious accusation and if untrue I'd expect the RFL to come out and defend their team, and give NH a big fine (and deservedly so).

Shocking, farcical decision and Daryl Powell should be fined. Does he ever shut up moaning? Can't stand the guy.

How many games did Marc Snide get last season for DELIBERATELY trying to end Danny McGuire's season/career?

Here's what Powell said“That was a bad tackle – that’s got to be out of the game,” Powell told media after the game."
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McGuire had greater healing powers than Jesus that week.

Cas lose their captain and arguably their best player for the whole season.

Hull KR lose a pretty average hooker for four games.

Probably best for Hudgell to stand down from his barstool and shut up.

Probably the most inane post for a while on this forum.

Powell wouldn't have blinked twice at that tackle if Shenton wasn't injured. The reaction from the Cas players is also quite telling. Fact of the matter of is that tackle was legitimate (it was unfortunate - no malice whatsoever - that Shenton got injured). Every team does it (yes Mr Powell, even yours).