I remember his first match against Australia in this country, when he was still a kid. I saw that day what a good player he was. He took the ball up and you could see he was physically hurting them.

The Ozzies know their RL - you can see who they sign - not the flash players that British fans like but Morley, Ellis, Burgess, Graham ie solid players, who do damage. I don't think many fans in this country realised how good Morley was before he went to Oz.

That was Morley's best ever international performance against Australia and that's why you remember it. At international level, he's not performed as well as that since. Not even close.

And guess how long ago that was?

1997.

I remember it because I had not really seen him much / at all live beforehand and he looked the best, big British RL forward I could remember in a long time. Personally, despite his status and success in Oz, I think he could have been a more exciting player if they'd have coached / used him differently.

That's your opinion, which is flawed and in the minority.

To be honest i dont think morley has done anything wrong.Imo hes had the agression coached out of him.He used to frighten the life out of the aussies years ago with his aggression.Since his arrival home ive only seen the odd bighit like the ones on Hall,Harrison Hanson which he used to do more often back in aus,We need more aggression from mozza thats all hes lacking.

I think mcnamaras selections has to be questioned especially picking the likes of wilkin and giving him plenty of game time ,We have plenty of forawrds better than wilkin,

Peacock and Morley have been great servants but I hope that this 4N is their swansong.

I really rate Sam Burgess but also worry that his career never develops to the level it should due to injuries. I hope I'm wrong.

Feel free to enlighten me with evidence regarding all those alleged fantastic performances from Morley for his country since 1997 where he has stood out and smashed the Aussie and Kiwi forwards around at international level.

<Your evidence goes here>

I've never been anything other than impressed with Morley.

I made the mistake of watching an NRL game featuring him the other day. The difference between the Sydney Morley and Morley now is massive. He's past it.

dont remember to many forwards last season young or old smashing mozza come to think of it.

It's a shame ain't it. I remember him on a kick chase once absolutely smashing the full back who dropped the ball about 5 yards out for someone else to pick it up and score. Everyone went to congratulate Mozza and not the try scorer. Can't remember who it was against though.

No one would ever 'smash' Morley so to speak. He'll be as tough as teak for a good 20 years. At 50 I doubt many players would be able to 'smash' him. But his contribution to games isn't what it was. His impact used to be massive and game changing. I just don't think he's like that anymore. He'll still put the odd big shot in, but his overall contribution is on the wane. Still good enough for SL for a year probably but we shouldn't be including him in the international setup. Peacock we probably should, he's more like Civonoceva for Australia, batters people with attrition rather than physicality.

Both Peacock and Morley have been terrific players over their careers but this series should definitely be their last in terms of international RL. Time to start blooding some of the youngsters. After seeing him week-in week-out for Wigan I would have thought Lee Mossop would have at least made the final 24 man squad, though I think his injury sustained in the CC final may be the part of the reason why he was overlooked.

I've been impressed with him during his days at Leeds and the Sydney Roosters. But I'm not very impressed with him at international level as he's never really done the business to any degree of consistency on that particular stage.

As someone pointed out earlier, his one great game was in 1997 against the SL Australian team which just happens to be the one Test match where I remain convinced to this day that it was a staged result in order to create a decider. The only other notable Test match from Morley was him getting sent off after 9 seconds! Overall, a very ordinary international career from a player who ought to have made a much more significant impact in the national shirt.

It is interesting isn't it Keith.

Can play well against aussies and kiwis week in, week out and is highly respected here by the RL fraternity (ignore aussie numpties on RL forums) as being another tough, no-nonsense Englishman who killed it over here. Yet, apparently he couldn't do it dependent on what jersey he was wearing.