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I didnt realise that. Think he needs to receive some stick icon_smile.gif

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Conorgiantsfan "Agreed, but they do run the International game with themselves firmly in mind.'"


...EXACTLY.
So...you get them to agree to the U18 RLWC with players, once selected, unable to change shirts when they get older. SOO wouldn't suffer........NRL wouldn't suffer...in fact I'd go as far as to say it would improve and the international game could grow organically and eventually generate even more players to pick from and bucket loads of cash.
Cash is what it's all about....currently the AFL gets bigger crowds and more TV money, but if you make League a TRUE international sport the game would generate loads more for the owners of the clubs.

Smokey....I toyed with the "bring back GB" idea....it would be good for the tri-nations, but I disagree about players not wanting to gamble on their futures. Jamie O'callaghan represents Ireland......he is from west london but he has made his choice now. From what I hear, he is getting better with every game, but even if he was to break every record available...he can't (well, he should't ever) be able to play for England. Yes, you will get some players who hold out....but if they get passed over at U18's...and then U20's they may well change their stance.
Ryan Giggs is probably in the top 10 players of all time never to grace a World Cup......(and an england schoolboys captain to boot) but he never regretted (publicly) his decision. Let's face it, even with the idiot England have as coach now, there are only about 30 players who will get the chance to wear the England shirt..........420 SL Players with about 100 crims/kiwis and a dozen frogs......there's plenty of guys out there who would have jumped at an Irish shirt if they's been offered it a few years back.

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Quote: gutterfax "... back.'"


The net result of what you suggest would England becoming the best of the rest , rather than the worst of the best as we currently are

We would then have a ' top ' tier of Oz And NZ , with a competitive lower tier of England and the rest

So who is going to pay to watch or invest in lower tier RL ?

Answer ? , nobody

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It'll be raining soon and crowds in Sydney will be back to their normal sub 15k.

Good job Queensland is the heart of RL and keeps the avg up!

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Starbug "The net result of what you suggest would England becoming the best of the rest , rather than the worst of the best as we currently are

We would then have a ' top ' tier of Oz And NZ , with a competitive lower tier of England and the rest

So who is going to pay to watch or invest in lower tier RL ?

Answer ? , nobody'"


Last time I checked there were 17 players in a team and about another 17 in the squad. 68 players currently in the NRL that have a chance of representing Australia or New Zealand. 16 squads of say 30 players is 480..........take your 68 out and you have over 400 players...a lot of whom wil qualify for pacifica countries......I would suggest that if given the chance to play for their herritage country, even at U18 level, a lot of these guys would have taken it.

As for investing in the lower tiers.....the IRB seem to have no problem filtering cash down. As for watching it? I will stand in the rain again this year to watch my local comp and then spend a few hours in cars/planes watching the Orcas in the national comp.....I am a fan of the game as well as my club. I pay (only minimal, but I do pay) to watch these games...I would like to think I am not alone.
You watch Leigh...you pay to watch them....you are supporting, investing and watching the lower tier.....so there's two of us to start with icon_cool.gif

There is no quick fix.....but as I have said, if you get the 30 owners of the top clubs in the world together, show them the plans, explain that their money is safe and that what you are proposing will benefit them, they may get you to tweak it a bit, but I think they's all buy into it........getting them all to obey the rules is a totally different matter.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: JB Down Under "It'll be raining soon and crowds in Sydney will be back to their normal sub 15k.

Good job Queensland is the heart of RL and keeps the avg up!'"

If the Dogs get 532 tonight you win icon_biggrin.gif

Big gate in Auckland helped as well BTW......Shows that NZ should get a second franchise NOW!!!!

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yeh damn those warriors fans turning out for their one annual game of the season!

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: JB Down Under "yeh damn those warriors fans turning out for their one annual game of the season!'"

as you're $50 out already, fancy a flutter on the seasons average for the warriors being higher than last years 13,313?

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shouldn't be hard with that first up crowd. Get the weather turning and the Warriors slumping as per usual and they will be back to their usual 14-15k.

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Quote: gutterfax "as you're $50 out already, fancy a flutter on the seasons average for the warriors being higher than last years 13,313?'"


Off the top of my head that would mean they would only be getting 11,222 per game for the rest of the year... and thats equaling it.

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Quote: manly4ever "With 175,000 fans turned out so far,with 1 game remaining....We're looking to break the record of over 200k for 8 games...I know no one gives a stuff...

BUT
We should be praise the game in OZ,it seems we're the only nation in the world that gives a stuff...
And in England's top team sport the top 16 averaged approximately 565,000 in the last full round of matches!

Let's compare apples with apples if we're going to make it a #%*+ measuring contest!

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Quote: The Clan "And in England's top team sport the top 16 averaged approximately 565,000 in the last full round of matches!

Let's compare apples with apples if we're going to make it a #%*+ measuring contest!'"



But then you have to compare populations. And England is much bigger than Australia/NZ

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Harrigan "Off the top of my head that would mean they would only be getting 11,222 per game for the rest of the year... and thats equaling it.'"

Ssshhh..... icon_biggrin.gif how am I supposed to make money with you about icon_lol.gif

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: The Clan "And in England's top team sport the top 16 averaged approximately 565,000 in the last full round of matches!

Let's compare apples with apples if we're going to make it a #%*+ measuring contest!'"


Quote: The Clan "But then you have to compare populations. And England is much bigger than Australia/NZ'"


...also, you compared Englands top team sport with NRL......I suspect the AFL would have been the correct option icon_cool.gif

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Quote: gutterfax "Ssshhh.....

icon_lol.gif

I'm off to bed now anyway so maybe he wont see that and you can try and get money out of him in peace. The main game of the weekend kicks off in 7 hours so I better try and get some icon_smile.gif

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