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I'd like to see the naysayers actually spell out and prove how it's not possible rather than just say it's not. I didn't expect anything but bleating from certain quarters but facts are a bit more interesting to argue against, rather than responding to a few miserable tw*ts who have turned hoping something's not true into fact.

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Why there mid table fev have won the league they should be promoted why should widnes be giving the right just because they have a good stadium and a very clever acountant that doesn't give them a god given right to go into super league

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Quote: hullkrforever "Why there mid table fev have won the league they should be promoted why should widnes be giving the right just because they have a good stadium and a very clever acountant that doesn't give them a god given right to go into super league'"


Did the last two years just pass you by?

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Quote: hullkrforever "Why there mid table fev have won the league they should be promoted why should widnes be giving the right just because they have a good stadium and a very clever acountant that doesn't give them a god given right to go into super league'"


for christ sake, Do you know the rules regarding promotion and relegation in it's current form?

Im assuming you are completely ignorant of the process involved or you would not need to ask that question. Fev fail at every other aspect of the SL application process, They still have not earned the right to apply. they have a good team, and as a club are one of my fav clubs but they are not yet strong enough for SL.

Hell if we are asking dumb questions like that, then why are cats not getting relegated if they remain in bottom spot?

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I know that but Iam just stating that it's a idiotic way for promotion and relagation and just because you have the stadium is stupid these teams like fev etc have nothing to play for were as widnes could finish bottom play a load of part timers save there cash and instantly get into super league because of a stadium and then spend there full cap because they have instant credit for employing part timers

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Quote: hullkrforever "I know that but Iam just stating that it's a idiotic way for promotion and relagation and just because you have the stadium is stupid these teams like fev etc have nothing to play for were as widnes could finish bottom play a load of part timers save there cash and instantly get into super league because of a stadium and then spend there full cap because they have instant credit for employing part timers'"


We spent the full cap. Unlike some others, we spent some of it investing in players from our academy. We also had a terrible injury list. But this whole sitting back accusation we've been hearing is nonsense. We spent the full cap, end of.

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Quote: Chris Dalton "We spent the full cap. Unlike some others, we spent some of it investing in players from our academy. We also had a terrible injury list. But this whole sitting back accusation we've been hearing is nonsense. We spent the full cap, end of.'"


Academy doesn't,t count on cap Chris , but with all that turnover and profit you should be ok icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: hullkrforever "I know that but Iam just stating that it's a idiotic way for promotion and relagation and just because you have the stadium is stupid these teams like fev etc have nothing to play for were as widnes could finish bottom play a load of part timers save there cash and instantly get into super league because of a stadium and then spend there full cap because they have instant credit for employing part timers'"


It's not only because of a stadium, there's far more to it than that.

Even the Featherstone chairman says they are not ready for Super League.

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I can understand the scepticism regarding the figures but surely if Widnes were going to fudge the figures to get over £1m then we would post a relatively safe amount rather than £2.5m?

If we were already over the £1m then what's the point in lying about it?

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Quote: Pepe "Plus these are pre-tax profits. If SOC is fiddling the books he is robbing himself of a lot of money that will have to be handed over to the taxman from that £1million profit.'"


As griff said , you'd offset the previous tax loss against the profit , so no sizeable tax bill to pay

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Quote: Maximus Decimus "I can understand the scepticism regarding the figures but surely if Widnes were going to fudge the figures to get over £1m then we would post a relatively safe amount rather than £2.5m?

If we were already over the £1m then what's the point in lying about it?'"


because you would look extremely silly posting a million profit on 1.2 million turnover wouldn't you icon_wink.gif

Who said you have lied about anything icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Starbug "Academy doesn't,t count on cap Chris , but with all that turnover and profit you should be ok
Didn't say it did. I'm talking about players we have brought through and are currently giving a shot. Youngsters like Danny Craven and Tom kelly, these guys take time to settle in to the full squad as they're green.

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Debt free is the main one! It's not hard to post big profits if your not having to pay loans back etc which is where other clubs books look worse... KR the best exampleof that probably!

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Quote: Maximus Decimus "I can understand the scepticism regarding the figures but surely if Widnes were going to fudge the figures to get over £1m then we would post a relatively safe amount rather than £2.5m?

If we were already over the £1m then what's the point in lying about it?'"


The results will have to be publically available at Companies house before too long, won't they? Makes no sense to lie about the figures.

Does show how stupidly low the championship salary cap is set, though. Widnes are limited to spending less than 15% of turnover on first team wages.

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