Are you a Widnes fan or a lemon?

With the amount of bitterness you're showing it's hard to tell the difference.

Your club went through a similar situation to Bradford, yet you're don't call for your own expulsion from SL. That's hypocrisy of the highest order.

This has nothing to do with us at all, but the situations were different and we've been punished for it so leave it.

Hardly hypocrisy, his club were effectively denied the chance to apply for SL because of a financial issue 12 months previously, despite their owner willing to put up a 500 K ' Bond '

Enjoy next sason in SL, you probably dont deserve it, but now you have it, dont waste it

The RFL did what was best for SL and their media contracts. How is this corrupt?

The Bulls retained their licence quite simply because there was nobody in a position to replace them, so which part of the ' system ' is failing?

SL, ? , well it would seem so with one of its biggest clus in such a financial mess and several others on the brink or shored up by owners investements of millions per season, not forgetting we are talking about a competition where all the clubs recieve 80% of their playing wage bill from SKY

The Championship, ? Having no club anywhere near in a position to replace the Bulls , you would have to question just how are they going to admit one of the clubs into SL in 2 years time

Championship 1 ,? , this is just looking to be a complete joke next season, the damage it could do to the current clubs is frightening, and I dont just mean Oldham and Rochdale,

So Mr Wood, better get the ' Spin ' machine into overdrive, I think youre going to need it

“A probationary licence allows us to closely monitor the performance of Bradford Bulls next season ''
Quotes such as that one you mean? Isn't that what they should be doing anyway,closely monitoring clubs performance.What's changed?Is NW saying they haven't previously been monitoring clubs?

"Wild goose to Fat Controller"
"Fat Controller here"

"We have a renegade by the name of GSF"
"Move in, move in, smother".

"Can we delete post, over"?
"Negative Sir"

"Damn. OK, rule change. Engage rule change, over" . . . . .

They turned down some pretty unsubtle bribes, because anybody else would have had to start at the bottom and a system in which some are more equal than others is distinctly whiffy.

They took a principled position, which I think even many Rangers fans acknowledge, while RL took a pragamtic approach. Which was better is arguable and the circumstances aren't identical in any case. Their's was certainly more [iright[/i, and it drew a line under events. The resentment this had bred will bleed on for years, as was the case with all the previous fudges - but worse, because this time it was meant to be different.
So we're left needing a clean slate, a fresh start - all over again.

The quote from Big Nige about the "investment in Bradford is a vote of confidence in Super League" is my favourite piece of RFL spin ever.

Wereyou saying Widnes should have been relegated from Championship to Championship1 when they "cheated" as you call it and went into administration?

If that had been the ruling back then I would have accepted it, not sure on what the administration rules were at the time.

With the amount of bitterness you're showing it's hard to tell the difference.
Your club went through a similar situation to Bradford, yet you're don't call for your own expulsion from SL. That's hypocrisy of the highest order.

Bitterness has nothing to do with it, it is the injustice of the situation that I dislike & how unfair it is to the other clubs aspiring to SL. We were not in SL at the time so that does not stack up. See above being dropped to champ 1. As Starbug points out we were denied the chance of a SL franchise due to going into administration. I await with anticipation for the next round of licensing to see if the Bulls admnistration denies them a SL place.

Cheating? Yes when the Bulls received their grade B licence they covered up their financial woes, that is cheating and very worrying in that the RFL didn't spot it also????

In my opinion I really don't think that the RFL were daft enough to miss the fact that the Bulls were in trouble with money. They knew what the situation was & subsequently bought Odsal. This would mean that both the Bulls & the RFL were in cahoots covering the situation up. That makes the RFL corrupt & the Bulls cheats.

That rule change was voted through by the other SL clubs and has far more to do with self preservation than helping out Crusaders. As it happens Wakefield were the first club to benefit, and the Bulls the second.

Got proof of that have you?


The RFL bought the [ilease[/i to Odsal (not the ground) to recoup money they'd advanced to Bradford and they hadn't paid back. If they wanted to cover up the problems at the Bulls they wouldn't have asked for the money back - one of the things that precipitated the administration.

BTW - having money problems isn't against any rules and neither is there any requirement to make it public.

Yeah. Right. Not a bit. OK. You're not bitter. At all. 17.46630859375:5