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| Quote IR80="IR80"
We really would be better with Doncaster in The Keepmoat in SL than a failed Bradford relaunch.'"
If only 
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"Odsal is the biggest white elephant in RL.
All this talk of it being 'iconic'- is there a RL fan who really enjoyed watching a game there?... No cover, miles from the pitch, poor atmosphere, I don't see a single selling point of why anybody would want that relic back, when surely we should be looking to make the game look modern and worth investing in?'"
I think you're exaggerating a little. Back in the glory days with it approaching 20k, say a Leeds / Bradford derby it was a phenomenal experience with a superb atmosphere. I don't really think anyone was that far from the pitch either. Comparable to Hull KR at the time, with main stands nearer the pitch and behind the posts further away. Nevertheless, as a Bradford fan of nearly 40 years for whom Odsal holds some truly magical memories, I don't want to go back.
It is not possible to turn that crater into a ground fit for the future. As I've said before, let Bradford Council and the RFL sell up and make their money however they wish, and lets get a community stadium where the upturned boat was across the road.
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| Quote Pumpetypump="Pumpetypump"I think you're exaggerating a little. Back in the glory days with it approaching 20k, say a Leeds / Bradford derby it was a phenomenal experience with a superb atmosphere. I don't really think anyone was that far from the pitch either. Comparable to Hull KR at the time, with main stands nearer the pitch and behind the posts further away. Nevertheless, as a Bradford fan of nearly 40 years for whom Odsal holds some truly magical memories, I don't want to go back.
It is not possible to turn that crater into a ground fit for the future. As I've said before, let Bradford Council and the RFL sell up and make their money however they wish, and lets get a community stadium where the upturned boat was across the road.'"
and where would the money for a community stadium come from?
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| Quote IR80="IR80"and where would the money for a community stadium come from?'"
Well there are several possible options to explore. By permanently vacating Odsal the council might be able to sell the asset make a profit and help with some of the financing of a community Stadium. There's also our sister club (of sorts) Bradford Park Avenue. They've improved their own ground lately but a bespoke community stadium shared with us would be attractive. The Council have lost a major swimming pool complex in the Richard Dunn and have various published aspirations for improving the fitness of Bradfordians etc. A modest community stadium on the same site with all weather pitches etc could go some way to addressing that.
I'm not looking for any handouts, but I think there's ways and means of getting a stadium for Bradford built, and for the RFL to recoup their investment in Odsal.
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| Quote Pumpetypump="Pumpetypump"Well there are several possible options to explore. By permanently vacating Odsal the council might be able to sell the asset make a profit and help with some of the financing of a community Stadium. There's also our sister club (of sorts) Bradford Park Avenue. They've improved their own ground lately but a bespoke community stadium shared with us would be attractive. The Council have lost a major swimming pool complex in the Richard Dunn and have various published aspirations for improving the fitness of Bradfordians etc. A modest community stadium on the same site with all weather pitches etc could go some way to addressing that.
I'm not looking for any handouts, but I think there's ways and means of getting a stadium for Bradford built, and for the RFL to recoup their investment in Odsal.'"
I can't see why anyone would want to buy Odsal, hardly a prime development site in a very poor area of Bradford...?
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| Quote IR80="IR80"Yup, pretty much the nail on the head. The game and it's audience have changed, I miss the days of The Boulevard, but I think that is more wistful memories of going as a kid and young adult, rather than it having been better than the KC. The one place I do miss is Charleston club in Hull, but that was the people more than the place.'"
The Boulevard, Fartown, Knowsley Road, Central Park, Wilderspool, Hilton Park, I go back to Parkside, McLaren Field et all always had some atmosphere felt like double the crowd and when you walked past the changing room you could always smell linement ... oh the days...
Thrum Hall on boxing days happy memories....
Crown Flat with its bloody slope....
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| Quote fartown since 1961="fartown since 1961"The Boulevard, Fartown, Knowsley Road, Central Park, Wilderspool, Hilton Park, I go back to Parkside, McLaren Field et all always had some atmosphere felt like double the crowd and when you walked past the changing room you could always smell linement ... oh the days...
Thrum Hall on boxing days happy memories....
Crown Flat with its bloody slope....'"
There was always someone fighting at Wilderspool, and not on the pitch.
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| Quote fartown since 1961="fartown since 1961"The Boulevard, Fartown, Knowsley Road, Central Park, Wilderspool, Hilton Park, I go back to Parkside[u, McLaren Field [/u et all always had some atmosphere felt like double the crowd and when you walked past the changing room you could always smell linement ... oh the days...
Thrum Hall on boxing days happy memories....
Crown Flat with its bloody slope....'"
You never went to the Barley Mow ground then, or Blackpool's Derby Rd or back of the gasworks opposite Turners coach park.
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| Quote IR80="IR80"Tolouse, TWP, Ottowa, New York, they are the future of the game, not a dated old ground with banked up in goals. [u Wakefield is bad enough with no cover and the block of flats at one end.[/u'"
There's no cover at Cas or Leeds for away supporters either, Catalans have only limited under cover for away fans so why single Wakefield out, as for the block of flats which seem to bother every rugby fan bar Wakey's they provide a large part of the clubs income which I'm sure if you ever visited the corporate area for the match day meal which is fully booked every game you wouldn't take the view you do, incidentally what's your thoughts on the council swimming pool built at one end of the council stadium in Perpignan.
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| It has to be a full time team. Fev could not survive SL.
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| Quote little wayne69="little wayne69"You never went to the Barley Mow ground then, or Blackpool's Derby Rd or back of the gasworks opposite Turners coach park.'"
Borough Park you mean ?? I went to Bramley in 1964 as an 8 year old which could have been Barley Mow.
Clarence St when we played York, all the Cumbrian grounds, Alt Park Huyton, Station Road Swinton I could go on....
Runcorn, Mansfield etc etc
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| For a bit of subjectivity, I thought I would post McManus' other quotes that Donny conveniently left out.
“And it’s time for us to recognise that all twelve clubs, regardless of where they are based, should have equal central distribution. Not doing so is clearly divisive and unworkable.”
“A full and open review of the Toronto debacle should first be conducted, which should necessarily include consideration of whether SLE or our governing body could and should have acted or intervened earlier, when there had been so many clear warning signs in the months and weeks preceding.
“This would also give Toronto a chance to present an alternative business strategy. It is incumbent upon us to give them such an opportunity, regardless of our deep frustrations and doubts. Not to do so would leave us open to and unnecessary challenge. It is the right and proper thing to do within an acceptable time frame.
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