And for the benefit of number 6, the winner of the "I'll defend my team to the death even when its blatantly obvious that Sinfield deserves a long ban" award is[size=150 SMOKEY!!![/size

He'll issue some sort of apology to maintain his clean cut image, and get sending off sufficent.

NFT.

You must have led a very sheltered life if you think that was an aggressive, violent headbutt.

Can't defend that. Wasn't like Dorn had done anything really to warrant that reaction from Sinfield.....just a run of the mill holding down incident to start with.

I will say those that have gone on about the shocking language.....they do sound a bit ridiculous with that mock outrage.

For the headbutt incident he deserves somewhere between 3-5 matches I reckon. You'll take one off with a EGP.

3 matches misses Warrington in the cup semi.
5 matches would miss Wembley IF we got there.

As entertaining as this 'Aren't Leeds the big bad wolf' business is, can we get a touch of perspective?

Sinfield got the red card he deserved, but lets not pretend for one second that he's a dirty player, he's probably one of the cleanest players in the game and this is so far out of character I'd not believe it had happened unless I'd seen it with my own eyes.

Peacock wasn't trying to hurt Clark in any way, shape, or form. He tackled him and naturally rolled over his ankle, all he was trying to do by holding the ankle was slow down the play. Suggesting otherwise makes your agenda a touch obvious.

Leeds are not a dirty team (check out the stats), so expecting a headbutt from Leeds ahead of any other team suggests you're either an idiot, or have an agenda. I'd suggest both.

Yes, Leeds got every single call in the second half. When the ball hit McGuire (who hadn't moved) from the kick and it went back to one we got that call. When McGuire almost regathered and the ball bounced back up and hit the cas players arm and went forward but that wasn't given and Cas got the ball - we got that call too. When half a dozen Cas passes from dummy half went forward and weren't spotted, we got all those calls. Just like in the first half, in the first minute no less, when the ball was stripped from Peacock leading to the opening try, another call that went our way.

Pile on all you like, but at least try and stick vaguely to the reality of what actually happened.

I dont disagree, i havent said what he did was ok. It was just silly but nowhere near the worst headbutt i have ever seen. Silly, wrong, lower end of the scale, no excuses, sending off right, he will get a couple of games. Life will go one.

Biggest punishment is that we looked on top and relatively comfortable at that point.

Surely because the knock-on is the first offence? The fact a Cas player touches it next just kills the play?

Hate to repeat the theme of the year but the obstruction interpretation needs looking at - the disallowed try was a horrible decision.

And Sinfield!

Kind Kev's crown has slipped a little tonight, losing the plot and headbutting is classy indeed. Leeds' old boys are getting sloppy at the dirty stuff in their tender years.

Joking aside, what a great game.

That's the thing though. Had it happened at a play the ball it would have been that situation. But the penalty had been given, and Sinfield has to walk over to him to stick the head in. What the Cas player did was what you say above, squaring up and rutting, but Sinfield does go OTT with the aggression and does end up planting him one. The wild flurry of expletives and the rage in his face doesn't help him much there.

We've all seen worse headbutts, but it's a headbutt and the red and a 3-4 game ban (Which I would be happy to have reduced given his record), but under their own rules, they can't do that, so it'll have to be a grade C.

Bollox 1 game 2 as a token just so there isn't an anti Leeds meltdown n here.

Dorn seemed to be talking to the ref more than he was to Sinfield. I just thought he took exception to whatever Dorn was accusing him of.

Good game anyway, two well matched sides and a draw was a pretty fair result. I thought the Carney disallowed try was dubious but can see why it wasn't given.

Am I the only one who thought Abletts first was a double movement? His arm went down before the line and his momentum stopped. I don't see how he can be allowed to have a juggle with it and then reach over the line.

over aggressive would see an e-f grading, pushing your head into someone elses' would seem so, but his clean record would swing his way, just like peacock who had never thrown a punch in his career before the leigh game!

If you grade that as an e-f, where does that leave you when someone properly headbutts someone?