Not surprising, but also irrelivant

Oh for Gods sake, even you don't believe that rubbish. England lost to New Zealand, in a competitive match. The Union game was Ireland. A passing interest in a friendly game from however many people does not equate... Italy v Ireland? Deary me, must try harder, chomp chomp - yawn.

One state? Riiight. Even the Aussie Rules trolls would give us 2... OK, I'll give Victoria and WA to the AFL any day, but the idea that Union is ahead of League in ANY state of Australia AT ALL is a joke. Your beloved game is dying here - certainly by the benchmarks you set RL in the UK - and I've really enjoyed watching it since I arrived. Like I said, you can't help yourself on the Black is White stuff like that, which is why nobody even hears the rare valid points you make any more.

At least Dutoni had a sense of humour back in the day mate...

Very relevant. Believe me, as a lad who moved south at 13 and experienced the institutionalised League hatred in even state Union-playing schools (honestly, you couldn't make some of the crap I saw up) let alone the private ones, this stuff sticks and will take at least another generation to wash out amongst southern-educated professionals, be they journalists, sponsors or whoever of influence.

Seriously



The Guardian will write what its readers want and no amount of whining is going to change that.

Oh, and Nelson, the whites rule South Africa, nothing's going to change that.

And Gorbachev, the Berlin Wall's here to stay too. Nothing's going to change that either.

It was the majority that changed those things, if you can convince the majority, change away

seriously













Oh sorry, I thought you were Joking

The Guardian lost is way years ago - it now panders to the not too intelligent, trustafarian, public school set. It's a crap paper. I couldn't care less what such an unrepresentative rag feels is important.

spot on

...let them write what they want, they've only 199,000 readers anyway!
Here's your Guardian readership...

Again, where did you get your BBC Tv audience stats from?

As for Union being bigger than League, yeh except for:
NSW
Victoria
Qland
NT
Yorkshire
Lancashire
Cheshire
Merseyside
PNG etc etc etc

How are the S15 players coping with their pay cuts this year lol? Has S15 audience managed to get bigger that the NRL's U20's kid games yet? lol
Bring on NRL expansion when we will see RL in WA bury RU again and hopefully another NZ team to build on the RL momentum of recent years in kiwi land.

Whatever matey, it's my life and I lived it. The rugby-playing state school I went to down south even banned "soccer" (as they called it) for Gods sake, you couldn't even bring your own ball in, so imagine the reaction to a lad organising some scratch League games? It wasn't the only school with that attitude. Don't underestimate the ongoing resonance of that sort of behaviour on certain segments of the population, and knock on to how our sport is treated in the media. It's how the real world works.

That's why the greater development of student RL should be a priority for the RFL, we need to get more future influencers on board. Some people's beliefs are more important than others, even if your reductionist viewpoint sees all numbers as equal and all decisions as rationally made.

(I notice you ignored my call out of your nonsense on Australia mind...)

same twitter source that was used during the RLWC....the final was out drawn by Wales v Australia too.....


Both sports are minority sports in
Victoria
NT
Yorkshire
Lancashire
Cheshire
Merseyside
PNG etc etc etc

hope that clears that up for you

but let's see if Union gets more than 8,000 for its games in the north in 2015...




How does a UK papers failure to recognise a game between England and New Zealand in its top 10 get to a debate about S15 in Australia? I take it you were ignoring South Africa and New Zealand to suit your agenda by the way....




where has RL buried Union in Australia?

Yep..we'll fill the Westpac in March but get ignored again in favour of Brisbane 2...