Briscoe's the better all round player, but Charnley scores tries and takes people on the outside.

Id go with Charnley.

I hope he has cos he has forced SM's hand because there was no way he was going to alter his HB's.

I just feel the Briscoe would be the better option..I think Charnley has too many errors in him. Charnley is in though, so play on.

He played about 25 minutes against the Aussies so he's not really had the opportunity to. He was poor in that time granted but I'd give him another crack. He's the type of lad that needs a wake up call every now and then and I think he'll have had that.

I'd go with 4 props plus Sam Burgess in this game.

Well, I know I will really look forward to Saturday now. No Chase is a massive plus. Even if it is Widdop or Burrow next to Sinfield we have a player that isn't ridiculously off the cuff yet still attacking and inventive in a manner that ensures his team mates are on the same wavelength. This allows for structured attack and whilst I am not the biggest fan of Sinfield I think this frees him up to concentrate on his game a little more knowing he has a true halfback alongside him.

No probs with the rest, both wingers are on form and know where the line is, good strong forwards and backs, gonna be a cracker!!

C'mon England!!!!!

Tomkins, Charnley, Watkins,Cudjoe, Hall, Widdop, Sinfield, Graham, Roby, S Burgess, Ferres, Westwood, O'Loughlin

Farrell, Hill, G Burgess, Burrow

Mossop and Ablett to miss out.

That's how I'd go. Or play Mossop instead of Farrell and use Sam Burgess in back row.

If there has been disciplinary problems it might have been better if the England management learned from what happened at the beginning of the tournament and been open about it. That way if there is then the players could be shown to have let down their country rather than having this guessing game again.

Not Farrell. He offers little at this level. Ablett over Farrell every time. I think Mossop, like Farrell, is also fairly fortunate to have been selected for the squad, but I'd take him over Farrell if necessary because of his extra size. Farrell is one of those players who look good in SL because opposition defences aren't always very good, but just doesn't have the ability to perform to a good standard against an international-class defence.

Squad's getting a bit light though now so they may need to be reintroduced if we pick up a couple of knocks. I think if they had been dismissed from the squad the news would have got hold of it.

SM should get it out there if he has booted players out. More trouble in camp etc etc..
Give the Kiwis more reasons to underestimate England on Saturday

Agreed, it went badly when he didn't do it at the beginning of the tournament and followed it up with a really bad attempt of a cover up with Hardaker. Don't like to quote the other code but the Aussie Rah Rahs had a very similar issue with drinkers recently and went public with it and how they were all getting bans or ticked off and that included Quade-Cooper who is one of their stars.

Don't want to see Tanya Arnold get treated shabbily on Saturday if she asks a valid question, fuelled by rumours, that turn out to be true.

I think this thread could cause problems either way and if nothing has happened then we are at fault for making things up. That said there may be no smoke etc.

There is no evidence of anyone being booted out FFS

Cahse has not offered enough, Widdop was back up and a good one at that. He made a change
Burrow coming inis no surprise.

So which Leeds player can we expect to be dropped from the squad this week for going on the p1ss having not been picked? ..or are they all picked to improve the squad discipline stats?